Tell me about the 1895 Nagant revolver

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  • rickyp

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 13, 2009
    2,051
    I just won auction for an 1895 Nagant revolver. $324.99 ended up being the final price shipped.

    I know a little bit about it but would like people's personal experience with them.
    Where is the best place to get ammo and supplies.

    It will come with holster but what else should I get to complete the collection?

    How did I do on the price?
     

    Doctor_M

    Certified Mad Scientist
    MDS Supporter
    Value depends on the maker, year, and condition... officer vs enlisted model also matters. Like all WWI and WWII pieces there are some that are very desirable to collectors and command a premium. For a run of the mill Nagant, though, I'd say you over paid. A couple of years ago they were regularly going for $99. Recently they've jumped up in price but you can still find them for less than 200. Prvi Partizan makes decent ammo for it... it is fairly easy to find. You can also shoot .32 S&W and .32 H&R Mag out of the unconverted cylinders. There are aftermarket cylinders that will take .32 ACP, but those may require fitting if you can find one.

    Enjoy the new acquisition.
     

    knastera

    Just another shooter
    May 6, 2013
    1,484
    Baltimore County
    First, the good news:
    1) it is in good arsenaled condition
    2) the grips, which appear to be replacements, have nice chequering
    3) You can get ammo for it at grafs.com. They currently carry two commercial brands and one line of surplus. See https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/6?
    4) It's a fun gun to shoot and it is reasonably accurate to 7 yards if the bore isn't shot out.

    Bad news
    1) you did overpay. It is a post "Peter the Great" model. Those are worth a bit more to some people. I wouldn't have spent more than $200 on it.
    2) This is not a collector's piece (the flip side of that is you can have fun shooting it).

    The complete set should have a leather holster with a pocket for a 14 round package of ammo, and two external loops with a cleaning rod through them. It should also include a lanyard.
     

    toolness1

    Ultimate Member
    Jan 5, 2014
    2,723
    BFE, Missouri
    First, the good news:
    1) it is in good arsenaled condition
    2) the grips, which appear to be replacements, have nice chequering
    3) You can get ammo for it at grafs.com. They currently carry two commercial brands and one line of surplus. See https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/6?
    4) It's a fun gun to shoot and it is reasonably accurate to 7 yards if the bore isn't shot out.

    Bad news
    1) you did overpay. It is a post "Peter the Great" model. Those are worth a bit more to some people. I wouldn't have spent more than $200 on it.
    2) This is not a collector's piece (the flip side of that is you can have fun shooting it).

    The complete set should have a leather holster with a pocket for a 14 round package of ammo, and two external loops with a cleaning rod through them. It should also include a lanyard.

    SouthernOhioGun has the surplus ammo on sale for 3.95 a box, a tad cheaper than Grafs @ 4.15 a box.

    Or, you can send Grafs your C&R and set up a dealer account and it is 3.69 a box.
     

    tallen702

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 3, 2012
    5,120
    In the boonies of MoCo
    Bad news
    1) you did overpay. It is a post "Peter the Great" model. Those are worth a bit more to some people. I wouldn't have spent more than $200 on it.
    2) This is not a collector's piece (the flip side of that is you can have fun shooting it).

    You forgot:

    3) The double-action trigger-pull is awful
    and
    4) The spent casing extraction method is tedious and takes more time than loading and firing combined.

    :D
     

    rickyp

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 13, 2009
    2,051
    SouthernOhioGun has the surplus ammo on sale for 3.95 a box, a tad cheaper than Grafs @ 4.15 a box.

    Or, you can send Grafs your C&R and set up a dealer account and it is 3.69 a box.

    I just ordered 140 rounds from Graff. I didn't know they had discount with c&r.

    I would. Like to have maybe 500 to 1000 rounds just to have. I doubt I will fire it much.
     

    rickyp

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 13, 2009
    2,051
    I have not been able to find a descent one for under $350 then add shipping on top. I guess this may be the new going rate for them
     

    toolness1

    Ultimate Member
    Jan 5, 2014
    2,723
    BFE, Missouri
    I just ordered 140 rounds from Graff. I didn't know they had discount with c&r.

    I would. Like to have maybe 500 to 1000 rounds just to have. I doubt I will fire it much.
    Yep, I've had a dealer account through them with my C&R since 2012

    Sent from my SM-G920R4 using Tapatalk
     

    tallen702

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 3, 2012
    5,120
    In the boonies of MoCo
    I just ordered 140 rounds from Graff. I didn't know they had discount with c&r.

    I would. Like to have maybe 500 to 1000 rounds just to have. I doubt I will fire it much.

    Let me check my stash when I get home. I might have a few more boxes of surplus stuff to throw your way if you're in the area.
     

    Bob A

    όυ φροντισ
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    Patriot Picket
    Nov 11, 2009
    30,970
    I recently paid 350 for one, but it was dated 1899, first year of Russian production. Paid a couple hundred for an average specimen a few years ago, after dawdling around when they were 99, then 129, then they all disappeared.

    Hang onto it for a few years and the prices will rise to your level.
     

    rickyp

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 13, 2009
    2,051
    Can someone show me one for sale for less that is in same condition as this one?

    I can't find many except on gun broker and they all run about $350 neighborhood.
     

    rickyp

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 13, 2009
    2,051
    Let me check my stash when I get home. I might have a few more boxes of surplus stuff to throw your way if you're in the area.

    I appreciate the offer but it looks like you are in Montgomery county and I am down in Charles County.

    It looks like the few rounds I bought will be here Friday. And I just mailed copy of my c$r and postal money order yesterday so it will still be a few more. Days before the guy gets them.and shipped it out to. Me
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
    MDS Supporter
    May 12, 2005
    22,948
    Socialist State of Maryland
    Back in the '70's my Nagant was worth a lot of money because there weren't many around. There was also no ammo to shoot them with. In the eighties, I bought a crate of them for $39 a piece just for the hell of it and there was plenty of ammo to shoot. Fast forward to today, they are once again scarce, ammo is getting scarce and expensive, so now they are worth a lot of money again.

    As the world turns. :lol:
     

    Cbrem

    Active Member
    Jan 2, 2017
    281
    Carroll County
    To me , the value is in you. If you want it, and you enjoy it, then it really doesn't matter what it is "worth". If you bought it for an investment, then yes. If you bought it for your enjoyment, then the value is in that. I wouldn't worry about it at all as long as you are happy with it. It looks like a nice piece. I hope you have a blast with it.
     

    j8064

    Garrett Co Hooligan #1
    Feb 23, 2008
    11,635
    Deep Creek
    It looks like the few rounds I bought will be here Friday. And I just mailed copy of my c$r and postal money order yesterday so it will still be a few more. Days before the guy gets them.and shipped it out to. Me

    Lots of good input from the MDS members, rickyp.

    Whether or not you paid too much in today's market is not for me or others to judge. If that M1895 Nagant pistol was what you wanted and you're happy, that's what matters. It sure looks like a keeper! :thumbsup:

    Like others, I too remember the times of having a Nagant delivered directly to my "C&R door" for ~ $100. As the song says: "Those were the days"...


    Your thread reminded me to get my Nagant out to play at our next Hooligan shoot. I have plenty of surplus ammo on hand, but added 10 boxes (@$3.80 box/14) to a Grafs order I placed tonight.

    You say you're in contact with Grafs. They can accept a scanned/emailed copy of your C&R and set up your "dealer account" PDQ. You'll pay a couple of points more than "cash price" if you use a CC, but they'll get your order out within a day or two.

    Enjoy your new toy!

    :)
     

    rickyp

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 13, 2009
    2,051
    To me , the value is in you. If you want it, and you enjoy it, then it really doesn't matter what it is "worth". If you bought it for an investment, then yes. If you bought it for your enjoyment, then the value is in that. I wouldn't worry about it at all as long as you are happy with it. It looks like a nice piece. I hope you have a blast with it.

    I want it as a collection piece to go with my 91/30, 91/30 pu sniper, m44, 91/59, M91 (1895) and my tt33
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
    MDS Supporter
    May 12, 2005
    22,948
    Socialist State of Maryland
    I shoot mine from time to time with both handloads and surplus (my supply is getting low). The surplus ammo is surprisingly accurate and does pack more punch than my handloads. I used to load 32-20's which took a few extra steps but now have a simpler method with a different round.

    A few years ago, I was shooting .32 H&R mags with a friend out of our S&W 16's and then I brought the Nagant. He asked if I ever shot 32 H&R out of it. I looked at him like he was crazy. He proceeded to put seven rounds of .32 H&R lead bullet loads in the gun and shoot it. :omg:

    When I looked at the group, I was shocked. It was just as good as any that I ever shot out of that revolver. I opened it up to find the cases bulged but not split. He told me to neck size them and use the 32.20 seater to seat the bullets and they'll work great. Well, I have been doing that for about 20 years now and it still works great. I have been thinking of getting some .32 Federal Magnum brass to see if it would work. Someday, maybe when I get a Round Tuit I'll give it a try. :lol:
     

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