What is your breaking point for a Revolution?

BeoBill · Dec 1, 2017

j_h_smith said:
I pity this country if President Trump is railroaded out of office. There's going to be a price to be paid.

That may be when we see the Tax Revolt; the National Guard used to enforce bank foreclosures and tax default sales; police and municipal worker "sick outs" following pension fund defaults; independent trucker strikes due to excessive competition from illegal alien drivers; and the general insurrection following ever increasing automation and layoffs caused by the Federal mandatory $15/hr minimum wage.

:shrug:

Jim12 · Dec 1, 2017

The Revolution is already underway, right under our noses.

They just kept it below the boiling point, so they can win without a hot war, other than minor one-sided skirmishes. Asymmetrical. It just takes a little longer this way, but same result.

TinCuda · Dec 1, 2017

Jim12 said:
The Revolution is already underway, right under our noses.

They just kept it below the boiling point, so they can win without a hot war, other than minor one-sided skirmishes. Asymmetrical. It just takes a little longer this way, but same result.

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace, but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775

Jim12 · Dec 3, 2017

TinCuda said:
It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace, but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775

People back then valued freedom a lot more than now.

People are bought off by a government that prints money out of thin air but blames the capitalists -- the real driver of wealth -- for whatever goes wrong.

Mr. Ed · Dec 3, 2017

Jim12 said:
People back then valued freedom a lot more than now.

Ignorant People are bought off by a government that prints money out of thin air but blames the capitalists -- the real driver of wealth -- for whatever goes wrong.

You continuously make a lot of good points, and especially the above.

I just added a word.

Jim12 · Dec 3, 2017

Mr. Ed said:
You continuously make a lot of good points, and especially the above.

I just added a word.

Thanks. And I'll add to yours, that there are a lot of ignorant, yet highly "educated" people. And, then, there's an abundance of over-"educated" idiots, too, who learned to talk a good game from their "educators." Mostly parrots.

Alea Jacta Est · Dec 3, 2017

You two... nice bromance.

Education should teach you how to think.

Education should not tell you what to think.

Blacksmith101 · Dec 3, 2017

Nnztg8r said:
You two... nice bromance.

Education should teach you how to think.

Education should not tell you what to think.

When they tell you what to think it is Indoctrination not Education. :sad20:

Mr H · Dec 3, 2017

Blacksmith101 said:
When they tell you what to think it is Indoctrination not Education.

Or...

Conservatives want you to think for yourself.
Liberals want you to think like them.

CrazyIvan · Dec 4, 2017

Mr H said:
Or...

Conservatives want you to think for yourself.
Liberals want you to think like them.

The real problem is that schools have churned out a bunch of educated idiots in the last several years. Gone are the days of academic debate and research. Welcome to the Ministry of Truth boys and girls. Does anyone else feel like we're stuck in 1984?

iH8DemLibz · Dec 4, 2017

CrazyIvan said:
The real problem is that schools have churned out a bunch of educated idiots in the last several years. Gone are the days of academic debate and research. Welcome to the Ministry of Truth boys and girls. Does anyone else feel like we're stuck in 1984?

You may have just earned yourself a trip to Room 101 with those comments.

Remember.....Big Brother is everywhere.

BeoBill · Dec 18, 2017

Bring it.

Jim12 · Dec 18, 2017

CrazyIvan said:
The real problem is that schools have churned out a bunch of educated idiots in the last several years. Gone are the days of academic debate and research. Welcome to the Ministry of Truth boys and girls. Does anyone else feel like we're stuck in 1984?

More like decades, I'm afraid.

j_h_smith · Dec 18, 2017

Jim12 said:
More like decades, I'm afraid.

I don't know if we've ever experienced this type of cultural madness. Even the 60's had a message. Today, it's hate for hate's sake.

Jim12 · Dec 18, 2017

Divide and conquer.

The indoctrination agenda endures unabated.

Exuberon · Dec 19, 2017

Back to the original question and breaking point for Revolution (or taking up arms); Here is my list in no particular order:

Mushroom clouds
Red Dawn scenario
Martial Law declaration
Alien invasions (thinking predators, xenomorphs, etc... and Alf)
Malicious AI (ie. terminators)
Zombie apocalypse (or name your pandemic)

Probably a good follow up question for members here would be how serious a "prepper" you are? Having guns/ammo and knowing how to use them are one thing; but how well prepared are you for any SHTF scenario?

Alea Jacta Est · Dec 19, 2017

Stop my retirement check
Seize my retirement account
Foreclose without cause on my mortgage

Come for my guns
Find denizens of downtown coming unbidden to these hills to ply their trade
Arrest and detain me without cause

Devalue the dollar to the point it's worth nothing
Foment civil unrest to the point it's out of control
Fail to keep America safe from mass civil violence

Any true invasion of the homeland
Martial law (national and extended) without cause
Replacement of elected officials with puppets

Demonstrated mutiny, sedition, treason by the "ruling" class
Mass incarceration of innocents

pbharvey · Dec 19, 2017

Nnztg8r said:
Stop my retirement check
Seize my retirement account
Foreclose without cause on my mortgage

Come for my guns
Find denizens of downtown coming unbidden to these hills to ply their trade
Arrest and detain me without cause

Devalue the dollar to the point it's worth nothing
Foment civil unrest to the point it's out of control
Fail to keep America safe from mass civil violence

Any true invasion of the homeland
Martial law (national and extended) without cause
Replacement of elected officials with puppets

Demonstrated mutiny, sedition, treason by the "ruling" class
Mass incarceration of innocents

I take it you've read Matt Bracken's "Enemies Foreign and Domestic"?

j_h_smith · Dec 19, 2017

Does removing President Trump from office for something made up or other political nonsense meet your definition of a breaking point?

Just curious.

Jim12 · Dec 19, 2017

What will happen if and when:

1. Mueller's witch hunt reports to America that Trump committed no collusion with Russia, but committed an unrelated illegal act before the election;
2. The Dems then take the House in 2018 and promptly adopt Articles of Impeachment based on above;
3. Dems prevent Trump from any further movement on his agenda;
4. The markets and economy go to Hell, after realization that Trump has been neutered;
5. Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Paige, Weissmann, Rhee, Ohr, and all the colluders and conspirators are let off the hook. By Jeff Sessions. A la Lois Lerner.
6. The media and Dems say "We told you so" about Trump, as he lives out 2018-2020 under impeachment cloud. The Republican Establishment is silent like a deer in the headlights, while gloating among themselves and whispering to each other, "We did, too."
7. The Left rises again, led by the Kamala Harris wing of their Party.
8. The populist, pro-America MAGA movement, led by Trump, fades into obscurity, while the Left says, "Well, that was an inconvenient interruption of our Marxist agenda. We need to make sure that NEVER happens again. Time to take another whack at that Bill of Rights."

What is your breaking point for a Revolution?

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