remrug
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Its time to get the law involved.First they trespass onto your property now the neighbors.They seem to think they are SOOO right that the law be damned.
Here we go again. Anti hunting/Anti gun horse farmer neighbor tresspassing
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Agreed. Having an official visit might change the way they look at things.
I’d have a discussion with DNR and/or police about it (possibly a NRP officer). Both about what can be done and possibly for them to have a talk with this neighbor.
I’d also setup some trail cams out of reach to catch the neighbor. Point them towards tree stands. If they’ve been warned not to trespass, especially if posted also, probably a decent chance police would give them a citation next time, if not criminal trespass charges.
I’d also setup some trail cams out of reach to catch the neighbor. Point them towards tree stands. If they’ve been warned not to trespass, especially if posted also, probably a decent chance police would give them a citation next time, if not criminal trespass charges.
In the latest incident there isnt much I can do. Its not my property and the hunter declined to press charges and was happy to get his gear back. Im running cams back there but my stands are not locked down. I had no intention of getting up early for the gun opener. That is going to change now.
- Jan 17, 2013
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Have you had issues in the past? Or is this a relatively new thing?
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What Doco said.
This is getting goofy. The horses are not in any more danger than a person really, unless they get loose but that’s kinda rare. Others as well as myself have mentioned contacting DNR and now it may also be best to talk to the local police if only to be the first to make that contact. We have many times had hunters place stands out of their jurisdiction but always from not actually knowing the property line and I believe on the property line is still fine.
I don’t hunt but must say there are too many deer .... get out there and eat these damn things!
This is getting goofy. The horses are not in any more danger than a person really, unless they get loose but that’s kinda rare. Others as well as myself have mentioned contacting DNR and now it may also be best to talk to the local police if only to be the first to make that contact. We have many times had hunters place stands out of their jurisdiction but always from not actually knowing the property line and I believe on the property line is still fine.
I don’t hunt but must say there are too many deer .... get out there and eat these damn things!
Nope this is new other than a few years ago a friend was hunting my place opening day gun and the farm manager walked on property to day hi to my hunter/friend and myself after a morning hunt while buddy was still hunting. So there is definitely some kind of hangup. If they dont want neighbors they can write a really big check and have at it. I was up early for morning shift and crashed. Not a fan of people just walking in to a hunting setup while someone orange is in a tree.
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Yeah, I hate "triggered responses" (just like this one...)
Looks like your post just nominated you to the "one of the many on here" club...
Gutpile, one thing to keep in mind when dealing with all of this: "English Horse Lady".
Im sure it has everything to do with the mentality. Have had no contact since the initial exchange and a bonus buck stamp to use. Once that is done i might just sit our there to enjoy my tree stands and shoot squirrels .
GuitarmanNick
Ultimate Member
Having seen a case of a cow getting shot and a goat almost getting shot, I can understand that some new property owners may have reservations about hunters nearby, especially if they are not familiar at all with hunting or the tools used for harvesting.
Explain it to them like it was farming. Harvest time is healthy for the environment and the animals.
Explain it to them like it was farming. Harvest time is healthy for the environment and the animals.
Biggfoot44
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- Aug 2, 2009
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I know, I was urging communication and cooperation before, but this latest occurrence changes the parameters now .
This is now beyond somthing that can be resolved person to person . You need to reach out the DNR . Yes , DNR, not the PD. A DNR rep will have the perception of being an authority on Hunting rules and regulations moreso than a "regular" agency .
This is now beyond somthing that can be resolved person to person . You need to reach out the DNR . Yes , DNR, not the PD. A DNR rep will have the perception of being an authority on Hunting rules and regulations moreso than a "regular" agency .
I would highly doubt the farm manager would’ve done that without specific instructions from someone higher up. I doubt he would take the chance of trespassing and theft on his own. Maybe time for more “no trespassing” signs to be put up an everything documented. Then tell the DNR for the record.
jtb81100
Ultimate Member
Agree with calling dnr. This needs to stoo before they do something that hurts a hunter.
Other hunter is worried it would jeopardize his permission if he starts having the law get in there. Remember he isnt the land owner in this situation/Happy he got his stuff back. Not sure what they would do anyway If I called it in since its not my property in this case. So far I've not had any intrusions on my side (Clarify - since the original tresspass expedition) and I have good cam coverage. If I get a few too many in me I might send her a shitmail reminder her how lucky she is to not have theft charges being filed. Possibly felony theft. It was two millenniums and 2 sets of hawk climbing sticks. Enough to get your to 25+ ft in 2 trees. Pretty sure its still theft even if you recover the property.
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fabsroman
Ultimate Member
The fact that the stuff was returned means the landowner made him do it. I would leave things alone and let it be. The landowner, who I believe is the horse farm owner, is trying to keep things civil. Once law enforcement gets involved, then everybody gets bitter.
Then again, you are in a better position to figure out exactly what is going on and what everybody's demeanor is.
Good luck with this drama.
fabsroman
Ultimate Member
And you think he would have returned the stuff on his own after being instructed to steal the stuff.
So much speculation. Then, who knows exactly who took it in the first place. Could have been the horse farm owner that took it, and then the manager felt bad and returned it. Could have been the manager that took it and was instructed by the horse farm owner to put it back. Could have been another employee, a fellow hunter that saw an "opportunity" take it and the farm manager put it back.
The speculation could go on forever, along with the drama.
I threw back a few too many IPAs and sent this out to the farm owner:
"Just a reminder DNR and local law enforcement take this kind of stuff very seriously. Two millennium hangons and a set of hawk climbing sticks is very close to felony theft threshold. Knock it off. Nobody is hunting your property or your horses. I’ve seen their setup before and they are completely within the letter and spirit of the law setup on the side of the line they have signed permission for."
The response was "We have nothing to do with the theft of the property mentioned, and would be grateful if you would not make unfounded accusations.
I have spoken to the gentleman who owned the tree stands and he understands that fact.
Thank you"
Ok. Why did your manager take the time/risk an injury liability situation to take down 2 tree stand setups and then return with them? Being a jack ass I couldn't help myself and responded with that information.
Hopefully this is the end of it now that they realized they were just let off the hook on what could have been some expensive charges.
"Just a reminder DNR and local law enforcement take this kind of stuff very seriously. Two millennium hangons and a set of hawk climbing sticks is very close to felony theft threshold. Knock it off. Nobody is hunting your property or your horses. I’ve seen their setup before and they are completely within the letter and spirit of the law setup on the side of the line they have signed permission for."
The response was "We have nothing to do with the theft of the property mentioned, and would be grateful if you would not make unfounded accusations.
I have spoken to the gentleman who owned the tree stands and he understands that fact.
Thank you"
Ok. Why did your manager take the time/risk an injury liability situation to take down 2 tree stand setups and then return with them? Being a jack ass I couldn't help myself and responded with that information.
Hopefully this is the end of it now that they realized they were just let off the hook on what could have been some expensive charges.
Nah the farm manager admitted in person that he did it and was told to do it.
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