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  • willtill

    The Dude Abides
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    May 15, 2007
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    I use the end of a wooden dowel to fully seat the caps on the nipples.

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    trailtoy

    GOA, MSI, NRA
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    May 19, 2013
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    St. Marys
    I recently bought a Cabelas Pietta 1858. Been interested in getting one for a long time and finally grabbed one. Can you guys tell me what I need to get, besides the balls, to get her going?
     

    K31

    "Part of that Ultra MAGA Crowd"
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    Jan 15, 2006
    35,670
    AA county
    I recently bought a Cabelas Pietta 1858. Been interested in getting one for a long time and finally grabbed one. Can you guys tell me what I need to get, besides the balls, to get her going?

    Powder
    Powder measure
    Powder flask or something that dispenses powder (people have used condiment dispensers but some ranges may say it has to be metal)
    Percussion caps
    Over-shot grease (Crisco works) or Wonder Wads
    Nipple wrench
    Nipple pick
    Round brush for cleaning bore and cylinder
    Grease for nipple threads
    Rags

    Not necessary to shoot but makes life bearable:

    Loading stand
    Capper
     
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    John from MD

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    May 12, 2005
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    Socialist State of Maryland
    The nice thing about '58's is that you can take the grips off, spray with your favorite soap and water, rinse and lube and you are done. Colt's take a little more time to clean.

    I second the loading stand as it makes squeezing the balls into the cylinder much easier. You may think you can do it holding onto the gun, and you can, but it is much easier with the stand.
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
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    May 12, 2005
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    Socialist State of Maryland
    Funny, that never happened with mine. Were you using real BP by any chance?

    Wads prevent chain fires. [Cue discussion about grease and nipples.] :D

    Yes I was. As for chain fires, I have never had one in almost sixty years of shooting BP.
    We didn't have wads when I was a kid and we shot real Colt's and Remingtons. They were pretty heavy for us kids.
     

    willtill

    The Dude Abides
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    May 15, 2007
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    Funny, that never happened with mine. Were you using real BP by any chance?

    Wads prevent chain fires. [Cue discussion about grease and nipples.] :D

    Nipples and chain fire? I think that's extremely unlikely. Unless you didn't have all nipples capped.
     

    ras_oscar

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    Apr 23, 2014
    1,667
    The snail capper (upper picture) should work just fine on a colt, I'm told. I have one that I use on my Remmy with a little modding.

    Bought the snail capper, tried it out in the basement. Caps like dream. Allows sufficient pressure to ensure the cap seats and will clear the cylinder backing plate (or whatever the proper name is for the frame part that always jams up the cylinder when the caps aren't properly seated) As a bonus, the capper cavity acts like a turning plate to get all the caps facing properly, No ridges, so I don't know how. Just dump them in and start jiggling. Uberti 1860 Army.
     

    BeoBill

    Crank in the Third Row
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    Oct 3, 2013
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    南馬里蘭州鮑伊
    Bought the snail capper, tried it out in the basement. Caps like dream. Allows sufficient pressure to ensure the cap seats and will clear the cylinder backing plate (or whatever the proper name is for the frame part that always jams up the cylinder when the caps aren't properly seated) As a bonus, the capper cavity acts like a turning plate to get all the caps facing properly, No ridges, so I don't know how. Just dump them in and start jiggling. Uberti 1860 Army.

    The magic of gravity, IMO. Glad to hear it worked for you.
     

    BeoBill

    Crank in the Third Row
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    Oct 3, 2013
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    南馬里蘭州鮑伊
    Nipples and chain fire? I think that's extremely unlikely. Unless you didn't have all nipples capped.

    I never had one, so I couldn't say from firsthand experience. I've read in other BP/C&B forums (fora?) that chain fires are due to flame entering via a non-contiguous ball seal or via a loose cap on one nipple. They seem to take this as gospel, with one maintaining a chain fire log which I've never been motivated enough to look at.
     

    ras_oscar

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 23, 2014
    1,667
    When I first started BP revolver I read all about the danger of chainfire and used bore butter to cap the top of the ball. After the first firing the heat of the cylinder melted it into a gooey mess. I really think the danger of chain fire is based on people that just pour powder directly into the cylinder from a flask and get some stuck on the face of the cylinder. I don't use anything over the ball, just seat the ball and cap the nipple.
     

    ras_oscar

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    Apr 23, 2014
    1,667
    That gooey mess is what you need to keep a '58 Remmy turning through several cylinders full. They need the lube to keep the carbon soft on the cylinder pin and at cylinder/barrel gap.

    That goey mess runs down my arm and drips off my elbow. There is no way a significant portion ends up on the bore. I still use bore butter on the base pin, just not in the cylinders
     

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