Supreme Court Takes Major NRA Second Amendment Case from New York

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  • motorcoachdoug

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    Well well well I wonder if the top brass at NYC and mabe the very anti Ag's of kommi kali, Non free state md, rotten NJ and stupid como of nystate plus conn are wondering what if the mentions that G&S is unconstitutional the scotus agrees with him plus all the other stupid laws they had as well.
     

    Fedora

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    Dec 16, 2018
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    . . . are wondering what if the mentions that G&S is unconstitutional the scotus agrees with him . . .

    If good & sufficient becomes unconstitutional (eg, if subjectiveness is removed from the licensing process), how might that affect national reciprocity?
     

    delaware_export

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    Apr 10, 2018
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    imho, any state that says g&s for it's own citizens now, should a court decide that's unconstitutional, will still deny non residents the right to carry there.

    their logic would be, "we MUST give to our own citizens the right, but we'll be damned if we'll give them to anyone else."

    just like speech, religion, searching, imprisonment, and such things, the right to carry only applies in your own state. if you're visiting another state, you give those rights up.

    and lest someone miss it... /sarc...

    If good & sufficient becomes unconstitutional (eg, if subjectiveness is removed from the licensing process), how might that affect national reciprocity?
     

    Kharn

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    Mar 9, 2008
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    imho, any state that says g&s for it's own citizens now, should a court decide that's unconstitutional, will still deny non residents the right to carry there.

    their logic would be, "we MUST give to our own citizens the right, but we'll be damned if we'll give them to anyone else."

    just like speech, religion, searching, imprisonment, and such things, the right to carry only applies in your own state. if you're visiting another state, you give those rights up.

    and lest someone miss it... /sarc...

    Thankfully, that would fall under Hicklin v Orbeck (1978) and Supreme Court of New Hampshire v Piper (1985), where the state must show that the non-residents are "a peculiar source of the evil," and the statute must be narrowly tailored against their misdeeds (Hicklin), so if carry were found a right, those that do not issue to non-residents would get the smackdown very quickly.
     

    motorcoachdoug

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    I think the best way to get their is take metro and get off at Union Station and walk to SCOTUS which is about mabe 1/4 to 1/2 mile away. That way you do not have to worry about parking in downtown dc. I plan to leave here around 6:30am and I know I will have to do some waiting and hopes it does not rain that day..
     

    Kharn

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    Mar 9, 2008
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    I think the best way to get their is take metro and get off at Union Station and walk to SCOTUS which is about mabe 1/4 to 1/2 mile away. That way you do not have to worry about parking in downtown dc. I plan to leave here around 6:30am and I know I will have to do some waiting and hopes it does not rain that day..

    For a BOR case like this, you'll need to be there earlier to get a seat in the gallery for the entire argument. The law school students will crowd you out. There are only 50 seats for the entire argument and 30 3-minute-interval rotating seats IIRC.

    4am via Uber would be better, the first Metro was too late for McDonald for me.
     

    ironpony

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    Jun 8, 2013
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    very quickly.


    Sorry but I found this part comical.










    So .... hoping for an answer on this one in June 2020? Eventually the meaning of the COTUS will be defined by our current SCOTUS. Wow, this has been debated for many years now, reminds me of Pelosi saying "we must pass it to find out what is in it." ... a country still trying to figure it out.
    Don't quote me so I can delete the post, doesn't sound good after reading it but 1A, "if you can keep it" - Franklin.
     

    Kharn

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    Mar 9, 2008
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    Since the Solicitor General has been allocated argument time, will they now file a brief on the merits? Their last brief was at the cert stage in May.
     

    jcutonilli

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    Mar 28, 2013
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    Since the Solicitor General has been allocated argument time, will they now file a brief on the merits? Their last brief was at the cert stage in May.

    I think you need to look at the dates again.

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/18-280.html

    The cert stage briefs were due on 9 Oct 2018 for those supporting the petitioners and the case was granted cert on 22 Jan 2019. The brief submitted by the Solicitor General on 14 May 2019 was a brief on the merits.
     

    Pope414

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    IMHO i think the Solicitor General`s request for time is a good thing . The Trump Admin. has stated it`s pro-2A also it is for an originalists interpretation of the Bill of Rights..... So if he states Heller as an affirm on the right to "bear arms" that's good. also I think Noel Fransisco might still be a tad salty after the left torpedoed his SCOTUS nom. back in the day along with their letter threatening the court.
     

    press1280

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    Jun 11, 2010
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    WV
    If good & sufficient becomes unconstitutional (eg, if subjectiveness is removed from the licensing process), how might that affect national reciprocity?

    Probably would give a big push in Congress to finally get this done. But I don't think SCOTUS would rule a state had to recognize another's so long as their permit was available to non-residents.
     

    Fox123

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    May 21, 2012
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    What about marriage licenses?

    If all you have to do is move to another state instead of getting divorced?

    You can see other people while on vacation?
     

    lazarus

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    Jun 23, 2015
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    What about marriage licenses?

    If all you have to do is move to another state instead of getting divorced?

    You can see other people while on vacation?

    At least on your last, states like countries can control their citizens behavior when not at home. Thus if your state makes infidelity a crime, Doesn’t matter if you are in your home state when it happens. US criminalizes underage sex out of the US.
     

    wjackcooper

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