Department of Justice Proposed Rules on "Bump Stocks"
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iH8DemLibz
When All Else Fails.
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The bump stock does not employ a single pull of the trigger. I don't think this new rule will stand up to any serious scrutiny.
I'm apoplectic with what has come out of the White House today.
Meet the new boss.... same as the old boss.
Meet the new boss.... same as the old boss.
Boondock Saint
Ultimate Member
No no, this is still a grand master plan! Trump will show us...
Edit: sarcasm.
Edit: sarcasm.
Mike OTDP
Ultimate Member
- Feb 12, 2008
- 3,324
No, it's not a master plan. About the only good news is that this is a proposed rule...which means we get to comment, and the whole affair stretches out for months. During which there's a chance for saner heads to prevail.
From a legal perspective, the Akins Accelerator business was a miscarriage of justice. This would be much worse. "Machine gun" is a term defined in Federal law. Bump stocks don't meet that definition...and ATF has issued written rulings to that effect. Any redefinition needs to come from Congress, not an administrative whim. We talk big about being "a nation of laws." That means being bound by the law, even when it's not convenient.
From a legal perspective, the Akins Accelerator business was a miscarriage of justice. This would be much worse. "Machine gun" is a term defined in Federal law. Bump stocks don't meet that definition...and ATF has issued written rulings to that effect. Any redefinition needs to come from Congress, not an administrative whim. We talk big about being "a nation of laws." That means being bound by the law, even when it's not convenient.
And right after he said 'No ban on any firearms accessories'. ??
smokey
2A TEACHER
- Jan 31, 2008
- 31,529
Basically our government is forcing them to live as free men, but face government consequences if caught, or to live as subjects and voluntarily sacrifice their property to the crown.
Today pissed off a lot of conservatives. When you combine this BS, the $1,300,000,000,000.00 spending bill, the new infringements in that spending bill, no border wall, trump calling for DACA relief, anti-2a groups launching a new offensive in the corportate world(youtube, google, facebook, dicks, walmart, citigroup...etc), and the billionaires using our kids in tomorrows march as their political props..... there's a pretty dangerous boiling going on under the radar of the media right now.
Destroy, surrender, or make inoperable.
The good thing is a memorandum or EO cannot override law, and redefine definitions of law.
Great idea NRA, suggest an administrative agency redefine the law to regulate bump stocks...But, I wouldn't expect much better from their past, we have a right to a license to carry concealed firearms court cases. With it being an absolute that the DOJ does not have the authority to redefine what a machine gun is, it'll be interesting to see what the NRA does when they do.
This goes out to all the drop-in-auto sear owners...If the laws on bump stocks aren't appropriately written. These drop-in devices will be nothing more than expensive paperweights. As, the way the law is written in Florida, they cannot be used in semi-automatic firearms.
This goes out to all the drop-in-auto sear owners...If the laws on bump stocks aren't appropriately written. These drop-in devices will be nothing more than expensive paperweights. As, the way the law is written in Florida, they cannot be used in semi-automatic firearms.
- Feb 17, 2011
- 14,024
So remove the bumpstock put it up on the shelf put real stock back on, put pistol grip back on. Bump stock now is no longer operable.
danb
dont be a dumbass
So remove the bumpstock put it up on the shelf put real stock back on, put pistol grip back on. Bump stock now is no longer operable.
Constructive possession of machine gun parts can be very hard on your rectum.
- Feb 17, 2011
- 14,024
their words make inoperable. If its not on the gun it is not operable.
- Dec 27, 2012
- 30,208
Someone needs to make a two piece bump stock where each piece is sold separately.
Its not a bump stock unit you put the pieces together.
Its not a bump stock unit you put the pieces together.
aquaman
Ultimate Member
The political leadership of this country is entirely disconnected with the interior of the nation. The NRA is 50% anti-gun (fudds), republicans have rolled over, Trump is powerless. When people feel they have no political representation bad things happen. The low-level street brawls we've seen in Berkeley and Charlottesville are reminiscent of the inter-war period Europe. Americans believe their own hubris and think they are immune to such things IF they're even aware such events have happened.
iH8DemLibz
When All Else Fails.
I agree. Trump is powerless. What he said during those White House meetings meant nothing.
Thankfully Gov. Rick Scott paid no attention to The President's comments. Thankfully Florida didn't run with what The President proposed and pass wide sweeping gun control policies. Raising the age limit to 21 for long gun purchases.
Thankfully The MGA paid no attention either. Thankfully they aren't in the process of passing HB1302. A red flag law that would remove the firearms first with due process second. Thereby making gun owners guilty until proven innocent.
Yup. Powerless.
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