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Old September 20th, 2018, 12:22 PM #51
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This is such an interesting topic. We all know firearms have evolved over the centuries. I think the orginal question pertains to the longest produced firearm, "covered by a 03 FFL?

So let's stick to actually modern firearms covered by a 03 FFL. Rifle, Pistol and shotgun. Only to be fair :-)

Rifle Lee Enfield , Mosin–Nagant M91(et al variants)
Pistol: 1911 (et al. variants)
Shotgun Remington 12 gauge (et al variants)

The 1911 and Shotgun new production is not covered by a 03FFL. Both the Lee and Mosin are all covered under the 03 FFL.
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Old September 20th, 2018, 06:51 PM #52
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I’m loving all the discussion here! I’m more familiar with “modern” and completely overlooked antique arms... definitely adds a whole other side to the coin. Maybe break it down into rough eras?
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Old September 20th, 2018, 07:37 PM #53
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Ithaca model 37. Believe it is oldest pump action still in production.
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Hefty gaps in production . Go that far down the rabbit hole, and it's hard to exclude the Winch M1897 .
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Even if we roll with Planctonadbc's parameters , there is still a huge area of dispute . To wit ; those firearms he is probably thinking of that actual started production pre- Jan 1, 1899 . Think M1898 Mauser, M1894 Winchester, M39 Marlin, arguably Colt SAA,arguably M1892 Winchester , etc Are they excluded because some of them pre-date the FFL 003 parameters, or included because they lasted into the 003 time frame ?

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Some of us can enjoyably keep this up forever , but there is one major takeaway for the larger Community -

Nothing smokeless ( or metallic ctg ) can yet come close to the longevity of the Brown Bess . Snicker all you want , but it was state of the art infantry assault weapon for a looooong time , as well has highly versatile all around arm for civilians . Even after the dawn of the ( historically brief) Percussion Era , plenty of flintlocks remained in widespread use . Didn't really become functionally outmoded until the dominence of Minie Balls for mil use ( which didn't totally happen until mid War Between the States ) ( and I can argue that, that wasn't necessarily best idea at the time, but that's a seperate eternal friendly debate ).

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Short list of Smokless Era guns on track to someday reach Brown Bess level status :

Win M94 ( & arguably M92 ) , M98 Mauser , S&W M10 , Browning Auto 5 , Colt & etc M1911 .
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And to further muddy the waters what do you use as the end date for production. Many antique firearms are still being produced by specialty gun makers, in limited numbers true but it is still the same gun.

http://www.militaryheritage.com/muskets.htm

https://www.davide-pedersoli.com/gun...es/rifles.html
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I agree ,the musket the "original assault weapon"
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