Mag capacity / gun purchase question....

ELEMENT94 · Jul 21, 2017

Hypothetical....

Is it legal if purchasing, say a pistol with 15rd mags in MD for the gun shop (in MD) doing the transfer to send the mags out of state for the owner to receive them at an out of state gun shop?

ShafTed · Jul 21, 2017

Perfectly. And, the OOS recipient need not be a gun shop. Relative, friend, or rented mail drop/post office box is all good. As long as the Evil Transfer occurs in America (not in Maryland) in any way, shape, or form it is legal.

ELEMENT94 · Jul 21, 2017

Interesting

Biggfoot44 · Jul 21, 2017

Well, it's about 50% into the grey . Some shops will, some decline .

ShafTed · Jul 21, 2017

What's grey about it? Maryland FFL receives Evil Magazine, then Evil Magazine leaves Maryland.

Not trying to be argumentative, just seeking enlightenment.

GeorgeSSR · Jul 21, 2017

ShafTed said:
What's grey about it? Maryland FFL receives Evil Magazine, then Evil Magazine leaves Maryland.

Not trying to be argumentative, just seeking enlightenment.

Not trying to play opposition here, but technically the seller is offering it for sale while in MD as part of the purchase price of the firearm. On the other hand they're semantically not transferring them in MD, hence the grey area.

lazarus · Jul 21, 2017

GeorgeSSR said:
Not trying to play opposition here, but technically the seller is offering it for sale while in MD as part of the purchase price of the firearm. On the other hand they're semantically not transferring them in MD, hence the grey area.

This. A few shops will/can pin the magazine to 10rnds for the transfer.

MEGARMS · Jul 21, 2017

GeorgeSSR said:
Not trying to play opposition here, but technically the seller is offering it for sale while in MD as part of the purchase price of the firearm. On the other hand they're semantically not transferring them in MD, hence the grey area.

The seller is hardly offering the magazines for sale. They are not part of the price of the firearm. The person selling the firearm is simply sending magazines that they have no use for to an address out of state. Lets not muddy the waters here.

Biggfoot44 · Jul 21, 2017

The GeorgeSSR vs MegaArms respective posts outline the controversy .

Not nearly as grey as complete magazine rebuild kits, but I can't give it a 100% recomendation to others to do so .

jrumann59 · Jul 22, 2017

Sending an illegal item to a metal recycling yard out of state, what is wrong with that. You are doing Maryland a favor recommending a reputable recycler that will destroy it. :innocent0

sgt23preston · Jul 22, 2017

Biggfoot44 said:
Well, it's about 50% into the grey . Some shops will, some decline .

MOST shops will decline....

DCSCO · Jul 22, 2017

Just received one from my LGS at my Va work place.

GuitarmanNick · Jul 22, 2017

Not that I would, but.... Hypothetically speaking....

Have your magazine rebuild kits shipped separately. Ask the supplier to ship bodies and baseplates via one shipper, springs and followers via another.

That should be perfectly legal for both parties. The shipper is neither selling nor shipping magazines. You can own and buy parts, to be able to keep your magazines in good repair for safety reasons!

PapiBarcelona · Jul 22, 2017

As little as this state is, it's probably easier to buy your firearm in person at an out of state FFL and get the mags before you leave.

I know several people who do this because the transfer price at FFLs around here is 1/2 or 1/3 the price of buying 2-3 standard capacity mags after the FFL swaps for 10 rounders, or no mags.

Blaster229 · Jul 23, 2017

ELEMENT94 said:
Hypothetical....

Is it legal if purchasing, say a pistol with 15rd mags in MD for the gun shop (in MD) doing the transfer to send the mags out of state for the owner to receive them at an out of state gun shop?

Let's clarify first because I don't think it's clear and people are misunderstanding.

Scenario 1. you are buying a pistol from OOS, having it sent here in MD for the transfer and then want the LGS here to ship the +10 mags to someone else OOS? And you keep your gun here? You said "Transfer" so that's why I mentioned out of state.

#2 or you walk into your local gun shop here in Md, purchase a pistol(and providing that LGS pistol has 15 round mags in that pistol), have the LGS send them to someone out of state?

Sounds like you you are a MD resident purchasing a pistol that has 15 round mags. You'd like the local gun shop to ship them to a FFL out of state and then you drive out of state to that gun shop and take possession of them and come back home here?

Sounds like an awful lot of work for mags you could probably just go into PA or DE or VA to buy. Like the rest of us do.

Rab1515 · Jul 24, 2017

PapiBarcelona said:
As little as this state is, it's probably easier to buy your firearm in person at an out of state FFL and get the mags before you leave.

I know several people who do this because the transfer price at FFLs around here is 1/2 or 1/3 the price of buying 2-3 standard capacity mags after the FFL swaps for 10 rounders, or no mags.

That assumes the firearm is a long arm and not a pistol. If it is a handgun you are stuck with in state FFL's only.

PapiBarcelona · Jul 24, 2017

Not really. They purchase the handgun at the gun shop out of state, get the mags, the out of state dealer boxes the handgun less mags and ships it to their MD FFL.

Rab1515 · Jul 24, 2017

PapiBarcelona said:
Not really. They purchase the handgun at the gun shop out of state, get the mags, the out of state dealer boxes the handgun less mags and ships it to their MD FFL.

And how would that me any different from buying a handgun in MD and buying mags as separates?

md_al · Jul 24, 2017

Rab1515 said:
And how would that me any different from buying a handgun in MD and buying mags as separates?

Some magazines brands are expensive (ex. HK). When you buy a gun it usually comes with a magazine. If you buy it from out of state and have it transferred to your ffl, you get the magazine and drive home with it.

If you bought a handgun which say sells with 2 15 round magazines, you might not get these magazines should you buy them in MD if the dealer does not pin/ mail them out of state.

PapiBarcelona · Jul 24, 2017

I guess they don't want 10 round mags on a full size handgun. Figure if you get the same gun the same price whether in MD or you pay for it in PA and have it shipped.

Their shtick is you either travel later to out of state and pay $30/mag times 2 or 3 or you pay ~$60 for a transfer and already have the mags to start with initially.

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