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Old August 12th, 2017, 10:56 AM #31
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Different model gun and non-original grips changes the value significantly. Any mechanical issues will reduce the value as well. I wouldn't spend that much on a used 65-3.
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Ehhh The 65 has no flare IMHO. The 64s were mostly prison guard guns, same with the 65 to the best of my knowledge. 64s are cheaper and essentially the same thing except 38 only. If it were an actual 19 I'd say but it. A 65....ehhh doesn't razzle my trousers
The seller's new price is $390 on my offer of $380. With the headspace and cylinder looseness I think $380 was too generous. Any thoughts from the more knowledgeable members here?
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The seller's new price is $390 on my offer of $380. With the headspace and cylinder looseness I think $380 was too generous. Any thoughts from the more knowledgeable members here?
By headspace, I am presuming that you mean the gap between the barrel and cylinder since the cartridge headspaces on the rim of the case. I generally pass on those that have issues. If it is something I really want, I take along a buddy of mine, who is a factory certified S&W armorer, and have him look it over. There are plenty of these out there so bide your time and get one without issues. I missed out on a nice model 19-4 at one of the dealers I visited this morning. Someone bought it yesterday at a good price. I passed on another S&W due to the issues you describe and overall condition. Too bad, both guns are on my want list.
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By headspace, I am presuming that you mean the gap between the barrel and cylinder since the cartridge headspaces on the rim of the case. I generally pass on those that have issues. If it is something I really want, I take along a buddy of mine, who is a factory certified S&W armorer, and have him look it over. There are plenty of these out there so bide your time and get one without issues. I missed out on a nice model 19-4 at one of the dealers I visited this morning. Someone bought it yesterday at a good price. I passed on another S&W due to the issues you describe and overall condition. Too bad, both guns are on my want list.
By headspace I mean the gap behind a spent cartridge in the cylinder under the hammer end of the frame. Reference the measurements in my prior AAR post #24.
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Did you have the .006" feel blade in the barrel/cylinder gap when you checked the headspace? If not, cylinder end shake would allow the cylinder to move forward adding to the headspace value. Shims are available for eliminating end shake, I know Power makes them.
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Did you have the .006" feel blade in the barrel/cylinder gap when you checked the headspace? If not, cylinder end shake would allow the cylinder to move forward adding to the headspace value. Shims are available for eliminating end shake, I know Power makes them.
I was doing my best to follow the PDF uncle duke linked to in field inspection guide . It didn't say to do that as far as I recall. So no. For those who know about these things, is that how headspace is to be measured, by shimming the barrel gap first?
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If I had it in my hands, I could tell you momentarily. Long distance, not so much.
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Understanding the points of wear allows one to determine what measurements mean and how to prevent incorrect measurements. If the end shake were excessive the headspace check would push the cylinder forward taking up the extra space. Different make revolvers do develop wear at different points, checks are similar, though. I am not suggesting things are done incorrectly, just throwing that out there.
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Thanks for the information guys. Fidelity was there and he showed me a more expensive similar model used S&W with a shorter barrel. The cylinder was much more solid, which is why I have the hesitation over this gun.
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Side by side examples...nice.
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Not sure if you are saying you like the shorter barrel, or the cylinder on the shorter barrel model. Shorter barrel models are snappy and not always fun or accurate to shoot.


   
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