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Old August 11th, 2017, 03:24 PM #41
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The DOJ letter addresses that.

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Old August 11th, 2017, 03:26 PM #42
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Of course NJ and NYC DGAF about FOPA


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Is this why they say to avoid flying into NYC and NJ airports with your guns, and now magazines, at all costs?
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PLEASE tell me you were using someone else's iPhone!!!!
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Is it a prosecutors and even a judges job to enforce a law passed by a legislature and signed by a Governor that violates the constitution of either the state or the United States?

In anticipation of an answer about who the arbitrator of constitutionality is a second question. Can a despot keep promulgating laws in violation of constitutional protections that will be blindly enforced for years as they make seemingly glacier like progress through the court system to be ultimately rejected only to be replaced with an equally odious law to once again start the progress all over again ad infinitum?

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I take your point and share the frustration. It is well established that the courts decide "what the law is". And the courts are empowered to set aside statutes and practices that conflict with the Constitution, as they construe it. The prosecutor is just an advocate for the executive branch of the government in its interpretation of those laws. There are means (sanctions) available for bad faith, but ultimately there is only the willingness of the government to live within the law as declared by the courts. There is a strong tradition in the US for doing that. Not perfect, but strong. We are not a Banana Republic (at least not yet).
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PLEASE tell me you were using someone else's iPhone!!!!
"Yes it's true. This man has no dick"



I went over to the dark side Obe Wan. . I came into Dulles two hours late the other evening and called my daughter at 1130 at night to get me an UBER since I had a flip phone. She told me to get a Smart phone or the next time I could either walk home or take a 110 dollar cab ride..

So I am now reluctantly the owner of a certified pre owned Iphone 6s.

(Verizons's words not mine)

My flip phone now sits forlornly in the corner along with my kids' etch a sketch, an old Western Electric black desk phone, a Slinky, , my old Hula Hoop from the sixties and seventies, and other assorted future donations to the Smithsonian Museum of American History

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"Yes it's true. This man has no dick"



I went over to the dark side Obe Wan. . I came into Dulles two hours late the other evening and called my daughter at 1130 at night to get me an UBER since I had a flip phone. She told me to get a Smart phone or the next time I could either walk home or take a 110 dollar cab ride..

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Welcome to the 21st Century. I couldn't live without the damn IPhone. Even my wife, as much as she hates the thing, has acquiesced. The kids, of course, are masters at it....
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If I understand what the DA is saying, it takes them a day to figure out that the person they arrested is not a threat. If so, then why don't they just drop all charges at that point? Why force the victim to have to hire a lawyer and spend $15-17K getting the felony charge reduced to improper conduct or whatever? I agree with one of the earlier posters who pointed out that the "I just follow orders" statement did not work very well at Nuremberg in 1946. I sometimes get job offers in NY State but I always decline to even talk to the recruiters. I went to grad school in NY State in the 1980's, but cannot imagine living there now.

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If I understand what the DA is saying, it takes them a day to figure out that the person they arrested is not a threat. If so, then why don't they just drop all charges at that point? Why force the victim to have to hire a lawyer and spend $15-17K getting the felony charge reduced to improper conduct or whatever? I agree with one of the earlier posters who pointed out that the "I just follow orders" statement did not work very well at Nuremberg in 1946. I sometimes get job offers in NY State but I always decline to even talk to the recruiters. I went to grad school in NY State in the 1980's, but cannot imagine living there now.

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