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Old February 1st, 2019, 07:11 PM #11
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What about it doesn't he like? Or is it because its 9mm?
The feel and the round. He's a shooter and can handle recoil. He must have shot the FN a lot.
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Old March 10th, 2019, 06:31 PM #12
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More than likely, the department had to downgrade to 9mm, to accommodate all officers and shooting abilities. Couple that with 9mm being cheaper than 40 S&W rounds and I'm not surprised at the switch.
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what was causing the accidental discharges? Do they know?
I think you had to pull the trigger to take the gun down...at least a rather unreliable source within the department told me that. People would pull the trigger with one still in the chamber.
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I think you had to pull the trigger to take the gun down...at least a rather unreliable source within the department told me that. People would pull the trigger with one still in the chamber.
Several issues this being one of them. Of course the problem wasn't "fixed" by going with Glocks in regards to pulling the trigger.

Poor holster selection allowing objects to enter the trigger guard.

Finally a design flaw which allowed for a potential situation where a "slam fire" could occur with the right circumstances were met. There's a recall now from FN with it.

It appears all bases were covered. User error, equipment errors, and design error.
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I think you had to pull the trigger to take the gun down...at least a rather unreliable source within the department told me that. People would pull the trigger with one still in the chamber.
So what you're saying is that carelessness was the cause?
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You have to pull the trigger to take down a Glock as well. People get lazy and careless with guns, so proper training and practice are needed. My agency has the standard rules regarding firearms:

1. Treat every gun as if it were loaded.

2. Do not point the gun at anything you don't wish to destroy.

3. Make sure the gun is safe by
a. remove the source of ammunition
b. lock open the action
c. check the chamber, magazine well for any ammo - check twice

I know everyone here probably knows this stuff, but better safe than sorry. I have had several interactions with buying guns over the years where I racked the slide and a round flew out. Always check.
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Are the trade ins on the market? I want one.
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Are the trade ins on the market? I want one.
I doubt you'll see them for sale any time soon. Rumor was they got destroyed since the Department didn't want a weapon they deemed "unsafe" sold again.

Without seeing the contract who knows what happened to them. If they were sold I'd bet there was a clause that they'd have to leave the Country. My money on them being melted down.
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The mechanical issues will mostly go away with the Glocks...the ADs will continue since the reasons for them apparently have not been addressed...poor handling...you still got to pull the trigger to take it down...forget to clear it and boom...
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