When I think of SHTF, I think in terms of months/years. I would head for the hills. As far from cities and towns as I could get. Then you can have a relatively clean water supply, and plenty of food. You are unlikely to cross mobs of people since most people will likely head for cities and towns. No soldiers looking for you in the woods, either.
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When I think of SHTF, I think in terms of months/years. I would head for the hills. As far from cities and towns as I could get. Then you can have a relatively clean water supply, and plenty of food. You are unlikely to cross mobs of people since most people will likely head for cities and towns. No soldiers looking for you in the woods, either.
MDMOUNTAINEER
Glock, AR, Savage Junkie
Clint Smith had a good article about all these people who are going to "head for the mountains" when the SHTF. When everyone heads for the countryside where is everyone going to live?
This isn't directed at just you, and it's not intended as inflamatory, but where exactly would you rough it? Would you stick to state and federal parks? Would you just sorta go wherever? Would you trespass on private property?
It sounds romantic to run for the wilds for privacy, security, and the ability to sustain yourself with hunted meat and cultivated produce. Hell, that was my plan (still is). But his article draws some concern; with all these people heading for the hills, where are they gonna go? Because if they think they can just sorta trapse around on other people's property, they're likely very mistaken.
Perhaps if you don't have family or friends with property you could make new friends and form an alliance. But I would be prepared with some type of useful skill to barter for admittance onto someone's property.
I hope the world never gets to this point and I certainly wish everyone the best if, God forbid, it does. But I'm not sure I'm going to be very friendly to newcomers, and I'm very sure that my neighbors will not either. In this situation, someone unknown to me who trespasses, will be dealt with as a threat until proven otherwise. Most country folks (at least where I live) aren't real keen on our urban and suburban population wandering in to proclaim themselves our new neighbors.
Just something to think about if you don't personally own property, don't have family or friends with property, and all the public lands are filled with people who planned the same way you did.
Please don't take it as a personal attack, just a point to ponder. Teratos, you may own a million acres somewhere, it's just a thought.
MDMOUNTAINEER
Glock, AR, Savage Junkie
When the SHTF, lets say nuclear war or zombie attack, I am less than concerned about property ownership. It would depend on the scope of the disaster.
I'll check out the article. Thanks for the tip
I can tell you for a fact, the people that own property (in rural WV anyway) have put as much thought into keeping outsiders out, as the urban/suburban survivalist has into heading for those same rural areas.
Those who don't own property may not care about property lines, but the people who paid for that property do.
Both sides of the coin have considered the "what if's?". But those people in the country want to keep you out as much as you want to make that your backup plan.
DarthZed
Ultimate Member
My choice would probably be my Arsenal SGL-31. It has a Trijicon RX06 optic (no batteries), is AK reliable, and the caliber has more punch than a 5.56 round. Yes, I know people argue in favor of an indigenous round that they say can be scrounged. But I think they are delusional. In any real SHTF/EOTWAWKI situation; all sources of ammo are going to be gobbled up in the first week or so (when the smart people will be holed up with their heads down). So all you can realistically count on is what you have stored. And I have (cough) many cans of surplus 5.45. 
In such a situation, any ammo would need to be traded for, or taken from atackers. And in the later case you'd have taken their own weapons to use said ammo. IMO
Edit: And I have to agree with tss104. Everyone that thinks they can simply head for the hills and rough it, probably don't have the skills to survive in that type of environment; since they are making such an erroneous assumption in the first place. There are simply too many people in this country to return to a hunter-gatherer life style. A given amount of land can only support a fixed number of people. And if mobs of people migrate to the rural areas, thinking food and water is simply going to be supplied by mother nature, they are seriously mistaken. People already in these areas would have no choice but to refuse them entry/help, or risk their own survival chances.
In such a situation, any ammo would need to be traded for, or taken from atackers. And in the later case you'd have taken their own weapons to use said ammo. IMO
Edit: And I have to agree with tss104. Everyone that thinks they can simply head for the hills and rough it, probably don't have the skills to survive in that type of environment; since they are making such an erroneous assumption in the first place. There are simply too many people in this country to return to a hunter-gatherer life style. A given amount of land can only support a fixed number of people. And if mobs of people migrate to the rural areas, thinking food and water is simply going to be supplied by mother nature, they are seriously mistaken. People already in these areas would have no choice but to refuse them entry/help, or risk their own survival chances.
Somebody cue the Xtranormal Bears. I don't have time right now
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This is the most versatile SHTF weapon ever! It will feed you it is easily transportable and HIDE ABLE! Plus an old soda bottle will make it speak in a quiet voice. Plus 1,000 rounds of .22lr will fit in your pockets!
DarthZed
Ultimate Member
That is too funny! 
Russ D
Ultimate Member
If you have kids especially small ones, you are staying put and holding the fort. It's the only plan that makes sense.
This..
Also, I don't believe there is any one perfect combo for TSHTF. Bugging out, as noted earlier, is not a likely way to survive. Bugging in is the most likely scenario so get your supplies and stores in order now. Have a plan to live through anything and familiarize yourself with all of your potential weapons..
JeepDriver
Self confessed gun snob
Rattlesnake46319
Curmidget
Upside - you have an ammo bearer.
Daddy, why do I have to carry this heavy back pack even on weekends?
- training......
clandestine
AR-15 Savant
Daddy, my thumbs hurt from loading magazines. Can I stop, I have blisters?
No, its training.
Rattlesnake46319
Curmidget
Daddy, why can't I have bayonet training like Logan?
I can just imagine my 7 year old daughter explaining those blisters to her teacher.
"Daddy says the sh!t could hit the fan any day now.......:"
clandestine
AR-15 Savant
Daddy says NO! In Soviet Russia bayonet must charge you before you charge with bayonet.
I can just imagine my 7 year old daughter explaining those blisters to her teacher.
"Daddy says the sh!t could hit the fan any day now.......:"
:thumbsupI must say the LULA Loaders have decreased blisters by 6000% on my childrens hands.
JeepDriver
Self confessed gun snob
My own little sherpa.
Gibby and I were shooting a steel match years ago and both realized we needed offspring to carry our gear.
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