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Old May 23rd, 2019, 08:22 AM #71
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That's amazing. Coincidentally, I lost all my handguns in a boating accident. It was on a big pontoon boat. Long time ago. Must have been going 30 knots, when I banked right and they just fell off!

It's amazing how many things get lost in boating accidents. In Maryland alone I'm surprised that the lake water levels haven't risen by two inches!

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Explains that Bren gun someone pulled out of the Chesapeake a few months ago.

IMHO yeah Huges sucks, but IMHO the bigger tragedy is there are zero exceptions on amnesty for NFA. At a minimum a rolling amnesty for C&R eligible NFA items would be nice or something like that. Show you were unaware in some way (like discovered in your deceased relativeís estate, or you know, literally pulled it out of the bay).

Itís not like the country is going to be awash in machine guns. There are only so many and at this point they are parts of history and there are MANY instances where the rightful owners are totally unaware of owning one because of inheritance or what not.
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Old May 23rd, 2019, 09:44 PM #72
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No, no, at gun shows, taking advantage of the limited restraints of good conscience and 18 U.S. Code ß 922(g) & (n).
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I have no doubt that some of what the everyday citizen says and does is or can be monitored in one way or another. However I often wonder about the volume of that data. The government can't properly staff the Postal Service, any Social Service department, manage the DOD, DOJ and any number of their own agencies or keep the cartels from importing drugs or MS-13 from their illegal activities for starters. How do they manage to effectively store, process and utilize every single call, transaction, Alexa conversation, phone call, credit card transaction, some argue even cash transactions, belch, burp and fart that all 330 million citizens do especially the legal activities? The resources required would be unimaginably staggering and time consuming not to mention unable to be done effectively by anyone in the government or whomever they contract with/oversee.

"They" may want you to think they can, but until I see stronger, credible evidence of the ability to, my paranoia stays in check. History has shown that for every roadblock government up, somebody's found a workaround.
Collecting and storing the data is a hardware issue, not personnel issue. Interpreting the data, that's where the people come in.

If we know about the nose $uch agencee data farm out west ... don't you think there is another bigger one somewhere that's hidden even better?
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Collecting and storing the data is a hardware issue, not personnel issue. Interpreting the data, that's where the people come in.



If we know about the nose $uch agencee data farm out west ... don't you think there is another bigger one somewhere that's hidden even better?


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Explains that Bren gun someone pulled out of the Chesapeake a few months ago.

IMHO yeah Huges sucks, but IMHO the bigger tragedy is there are zero exceptions on amnesty for NFA. At a minimum a rolling amnesty for C&R eligible NFA items would be nice or something like that. Show you were unaware in some way (like discovered in your deceased relativeís estate, or you know, literally pulled it out of the bay).

Itís not like the country is going to be awash in machine guns. There are only so many and at this point they are parts of history and there are MANY instances where the rightful owners are totally unaware of owning one because of inheritance or what not.
If I could not repeal the NFA I would demand the ATF opens a museum to preserve historically significant firearms that end up in their possessions. Destruction of something cool would result in a deportation to North Korea.
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If only there were watchdog organizations and whistleblowers in the U.S. out there sonewhere slowing down or exposing overreach
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According to Bloomberg’s own The Trace, California’s ghost gun laws are ineffective.

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But records obtained by The Trace and NBC indicate that the law has had little effect. Compliance with the law is low, and prosecutors have never brought charges under the new statute
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If I could not repeal the NFA I would demand the ATF opens a museum to preserve historically significant firearms that end up in their possessions. Destruction of something cool would result in a deportation to North Korea.
Apparently they do that to a degree. NFA Branch when they confiscate stuff do look for historically significant examples and offer them to museums rather than destroying them. If there are no takers though...

Though I think they keep some stuff stored for important stuff that doesnt have takers in case that changes. Plenty gets cut and crushed.
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