All PTR 91 variants a no go?

DetectiveWildman · Feb 4, 2019

My gut pretty much knows the answer, i was just wondering if anyone smarter than me knew if there might be a loophole with the squad carbine or psg type ones. Heres hoping!

Caeb75 · Feb 4, 2019

All enumerated in the law. The only one good to go is the pistol.

smdub · Feb 4, 2019

* PSG1 is ok. The bolt group is completely different and wont fit in any banned 91/'plain' G3 clone as the barrel needs an extractor cutout. The bolt group is also **MUCH** more expensive. Expect to spend at least $4k to buy parts alone to build a proper clone.
* MSG90 uses similar bolt group as the PSG1 and should also be ok. It also uses rare uber-expensive parts.
* G3K SBR is ok
* HK51 SBR probably too short to meet the 29" rule easily but otherwise ok.

The latter two are ok as pistols also.

Edit: The PTR32 in 7.62x39 is also good to go in MD (its a GREAT rifle) but not 7.62x51 as the other 91 variants are.

DetectiveWildman · Feb 4, 2019

I knew about the 32 and ive been eyeing it quite a bit but just my luck ill buy one and they will ban russian ammo imports!

boss281 · Feb 21, 2019

Revisiting this. I found the ptr 91 banned as a rifle on the MDSP website, but don't see the receiver listed as allowable on the approved handguns under PTR Industries. Is it buried elsewhere as an allowable pistol? Thanks.

Boss94 · Feb 21, 2019

Wasn't the Cetme allowed? Been a number of years since I kept track.

ST19AG_WGreymon · Feb 21, 2019

boss281 said:
Revisiting this. I found the ptr 91 banned as a rifle on the MDSP website, but don't see the receiver listed as allowable on the approved handguns under PTR Industries. Is it buried elsewhere as an allowable pistol? Thanks.

From the MDSP website:

"May I build my lower receiver purchased at any time into a handgun?

Yes, a lower receiver of a banned assault long gun may be manufactured provided there is compliance with federal and other state laws—into a handgun."

My guess is that it can be transferred as an "other" on the 77r.

ARinPG · Feb 22, 2019

smdub said:
* PSG1 is ok. The bolt group is completely different and wont fit in any banned 91/'plain' G3 clone as the barrel needs an extractor cutout. The bolt group is also **MUCH** more expensive. Expect to spend at least $4k to buy parts alone to build a proper clone.
* MSG90 uses similar bolt group as the PSG1 and should also be ok. It also uses rare uber-expensive parts.
* G3K SBR is ok
* HK51 SBR probably too short to meet the 29" rule easily but otherwise ok.

The latter two are ok as pistols also.

Edit: The PTR32 in 7.62x39 is also good to go in MD (its a GREAT rifle) but not 7.62x51 as the other 91 variants are.

If you are looking for a pistol version I know classic has one 12.5 in ptr pdw available on their site. I just bought the second to last one. I plan to SBR it.

boss281 · Feb 22, 2019

ST19AG_WGreymon said:
From the MDSP website:

"May I build my lower receiver purchased at any time into a handgun?

Yes, a lower receiver of a banned assault long gun may be manufactured provided there is compliance with federal and other state laws—into a handgun."

My guess is that it can be transferred as an "other" on the 77r.

I spent 10 minutes looking for this on the website yesterday. I didn't realize it was buried under an expandable text box. Thanks, that's the statement I needed.

jimbobborg · Feb 22, 2019

Boss94 said:
Wasn't the Cetme allowed? Been a number of years since I kept track.

CETME isn't a clone, it is the basis of the H&K.

Vile Shadow · Feb 22, 2019

jimbobborg said:
CETME isn't a clone, it is the basis of the H&K.

Vince at Duffy’s told me he tried to put a bolt from an HK91 into a C308 and it wouldn’t fit.

jimbobborg · Feb 22, 2019

Sling Blade said:
Vince at Duffy’s told me he tried to put a bolt from an HK91 into a C308 and it wouldn’t fit.

HK got the former Nazi who designed the CETME to design their new battle rifle. The CETME predates the HK, so it's not a clone, which is why you can buy one.

Boss94 · Mar 1, 2019

The PTR .308 pistol I believe was a gtg .

rfawcs · Mar 1, 2019

smdub said:
* PSG1 is ok. The bolt group is completely different and wont fit in any banned 91/'plain' G3 clone as the barrel needs an extractor cutout. The bolt group is also **MUCH** more expensive. Expect to spend at least $4k to buy parts alone to build a proper clone.
* MSG90 uses similar bolt group as the PSG1 and should also be ok. It also uses rare uber-expensive parts.
* G3K SBR is ok
* HK51 SBR probably too short to meet the 29" rule easily but otherwise ok.

The latter two are ok as pistols also.

Edit: The PTR32 in 7.62x39 is also good to go in MD (its a GREAT rifle) but not 7.62x51 as the other 91 variants are.

I had an HK-51, extendable stock, with a registered full-auto sear. It was not too short.

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