Colion Noir vs Bill Maher
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- Feb 17, 2011
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I am surprised. I have not watch Maher in a while but normally he goes fully unhinged rabid dog there in the adversarial interview. I think his producers made him play nice out of fear he would be made to look foolish.
Czechnologist
Concerned Citizen
- Mar 9, 2016
- 6,531
Colion Noir is one of the best 2A advocates we have. Surprised that Maher had the nerve to go one-on-one with him.
- Feb 17, 2011
- 14,024
Bill Maher acted like a little bitch in that clip. He did not even show his fangs like he does when he thinks he has easy mark sitting across from him.
He only restrained himself because it was Colion as his guest. He is smart enough to know when he is outmatched
Its kind of ironic... Maher wants to ban guns because they are bad, but he starts the topic by talking about his fondness for using drugs, which are banned. To start the show, Maher admits that bans DON'T WORK! I am a little surprised that Maher was as "reasonable" about these issues as he was... though he is still a liberal.
I've never seen/heard of Colion Noir before. He is a great spokesman and he's comfortable with a comedian poking a little fun at him and he is able to sidestep the racial overtones that Maher tries to throw into the argument. Maher throws the 2nd amendment as armed resistance to slave uprising, and Noir turns it around to show that the 2nd amendment helped the slaves and the North put down the south.
I've never seen/heard of Colion Noir before. He is a great spokesman and he's comfortable with a comedian poking a little fun at him and he is able to sidestep the racial overtones that Maher tries to throw into the argument. Maher throws the 2nd amendment as armed resistance to slave uprising, and Noir turns it around to show that the 2nd amendment helped the slaves and the North put down the south.
CrueChief
Cocker Dad/RIP Bella
Yeah I was glad to see Noir was able to side step the couple of gotcha statements Maher tried to get him to step into.
- Feb 17, 2011
- 14,024
In Bill's defense he brings up a recent article where the author believes that the 2A was for the keeping slaves in line. That author's main agenda is hoping he can get enough of a following that history can be "re-written" so that they can push that gun ownership was not a tool of freedom but a tool for oppression masked in freedom.
danb
dont be a dumbass
Bill Maher is well known to own guns. He is also somewhat libertarian. This was a very good interview. I think Maher was being honest in this interview.
CrueChief
Cocker Dad/RIP Bella
There was also a small round table portion that was equally interesting to watch.
I've had a couple of people try to impress that lie upon me too. My response is always "Even if that was true back then, and it wasn't, it's not true now. We also have a thirteenth amendment. The 2nd Amendment applies to me now."
It's amazing how that constitutional republic thing works over time even when there're attempts made to marginalize it.
ezracer
Certified Gun Nut
Noir did a good job. From what little I've seen of Maher, he has a split personality. 
- Feb 17, 2011
- 14,024
Ah that is more like Bill protecting his liberal friends when he sees a monumental smackdown coming.
danb
dont be a dumbass
Deer meet headlights when they try to argue with Noir. They simply dont know how to handle calm rational debate.
Combloc
Stop Negassing me!!!!!
Assfont says at the end "I don't want to make you mad...." That's because he'll be shown for the boob he really is. maher is a first class dirtbag plain and simple. He's clever but he's essentially stupid.
- Feb 17, 2011
- 14,024
Who is that stupid munchkin chick, she was just using the same progressive gun talking points that have been used for 20 years.
danb
dont be a dumbass
Best part is when Maher says he is more gun amenable these days now that Trump is in office.
smokey
2A TEACHER
- Jan 31, 2008
- 31,508
One interesting point was when Maher mentioned that he's much more accepting of the 2a now that trump is president. From teaching, I've got a LOT of friends that are pretty far left. Under obama, they were full-on statist and has zero issue with the president gobbling up power and the federal government growing in power and scope. Suddenly now, these same people are worried about the degree to which the president and federal government can control their lives. It's easier now to offer limited government, more localized control(less centralized), and the 2a to resist tyranny to those on the left. We need to do a better job of capitalizing on these conditions and extending a friendly dialogue to those on the left.
Never surrender to the false premise that the Second Amendment had anything to do with slavery. When someone tries to lay that BS in front of you, tell them it's false and ask them if they've read Federalist 29 or Federalist 46, both of which very clearly lay out the reasoning for the Second Amendment in plain and simple language.
These were farmers, doctors, and lawyers who had to resort to using their privately owned guns an ammunition to overthrow their government. They had no faith that the new government would somehow be perfect and immune to the same types of abuses. They wanted to ensure that future generations maintained the ability to forcibly form a new government if and when it became necessary.
And when they laugh at you mockingly about regular people with small arms standing up to the full force and might of the US military, ask them how the North Vietnamese are doing these days, or the Taliban. Ask them how Muqtada al-Sadr is, now that his party owns 54 seats in Iraq. Even if the US military were willing to fight a popular revolutionary uprising in the US - even if they were willing to kill their own friends, neighbors, even family members - asymmetric warfare is very easily carried out until the larger side runs out of resources or will.
Excellent.
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