Malpasso v Pallozzi SCOTUS Cert Petition Filed

delaware_export · Jan 8, 2020

Are there any implications of this and NYC? Or other cases?

If this is moving is NYC going to be mooted? Maybe? Will others start moving?

And yeah, I think no one is 100% certain, just wondering what the legal folks here think.

Edit: saw dans response too late...

krucam · Jan 8, 2020

Wish the Reply addressed the claim of generous CCW acceptance rate by the State...

danb · Jan 8, 2020

krucam said:
Wish the Reply addressed the claim of generous CCW acceptance rate by the State...

It did! It was like a precision guided missile, succinct, highly effective, total destruction.

see 3rd paragraph page 4

Bob A · Jan 8, 2020

danb said:
It did! It was like a precision guided missile, succinct, highly effective, total destruction.

see 3rd paragraph page 4

3rd para below:

Respondent insists that “most applicants who apply for a permit to carry a handgun for self-defense are granted permits that allow them to publicly wear, carry, or transport a handgun for self-protection.” Opp.11, 13. That is both misleading and ultimately beside the point. First and foremost, respondent does not and cannot deny that petitioner Malpasso and any similarly situated Maryland State Rifle and Pistol Association member cannot obtain a carry permit because the general desire to carry a handgun for self-defense does not qualify as the requisite “good and substantial reason.” Pet.App.18a. Whether other applicants who seek to carry handguns for reasons that the state deems “better” are granted permits does not make the regime any less unconstitutional as to petitioners.

press1280 · Jan 11, 2020

rbird7282 said:
For us simple folk, what does this mean now?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The likely scenario is that nothing happens now. The case doesn't get re listed, granted or denied. It'll join all the other cases waiting for the NYSRPA outcome.

I'd be shocked if anything else happens.

Fox123 · Jan 11, 2020

Will delay it as long as possible, then issue some minor/narrow implicating opinion in NY case, send all these held cases back to the lower courts to start the process all over again. Dragging it out for another 4-5 years.

PowPow · Jan 11, 2020

Bob A said:
3rd para below:

Respondent insists that “most applicants who apply for a permit to carry a handgun for self-defense are granted permits that allow them to publicly wear, carry, or transport a handgun for self-protection.” Opp.11, 13. That is both misleading and ultimately beside the point. First and foremost, respondent does not and cannot deny that petitioner Malpasso and any similarly situated Maryland State Rifle and Pistol Association member cannot obtain a carry permit because the general desire to carry a handgun for self-defense does not qualify as the requisite “good and substantial reason.” Pet.App.18a. Whether other applicants who seek to carry handguns for reasons that the state deems “better” are granted permits does not make the regime any less unconstitutional as to petitioners.

Click to expand...

I had to read that paragraph three times to parse the negatives.

wjackcooper · Jan 27, 2020

Crickets:

https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/01/this-week-at-the-court-365/

Regards
Jack

rambling_one · Jan 27, 2020

Good grief...I get butterflies every time there's a new post to open!

jcutonilli · Jan 27, 2020

wjackcooper said:
Crickets:

https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/01/this-week-at-the-court-365/

Regards
Jack

I am not sure what you are expecting. They did not deny cert, which is a good thing. The next conference is not until 21 Feb so they will not likely relist any cases until 18 Feb. Given that most 2A cases are currently being held, it is likely that they will not relist this case. Hurry up and wait.

esqappellate · Jan 27, 2020

jcutonilli said:
I am not sure what you are expecting. They did not deny cert, which is a good thing. The next conference is not until 21 Feb so they will not likely relist any cases until 18 Feb. Given that most 2A cases are currently being held, it is likely that they will not relist this case. Hurry up and wait.

Correct. If the Court reaches the merits in NYC, then all these 2A cases will be GVRed. If the Court fails to reach the merits (because of mootness) in NYC, then the Court will likely pick another 2A case to take up on the merits and the rest will continue to be held.

wjackcooper · Jan 28, 2020

Originally Posted by jcutonilli

“I am not sure what you are expecting . . . .”

Seems to me you are assuming that I expected something.

Regards
Jack

Bertfish · Jan 28, 2020

How does Robert's participation in the impeachment trial affect the court? It has to put off other work.

lazarus · Jan 28, 2020

Bertfish said:
How does Robert's participation in the impeachment trial affect the court? It has to put off other work.

No. SCOTUS meets in the mornings. That’s why the Impeachment stuff is occurring at 1pm on.

Also a ton of the heavy lifting is from the law clerks.

I doubt the impeachment is effecting anything SCOTUS related.

danb · Jan 28, 2020

The next conference looks like late feb, 21st.

Well have a scheduling update in 2 weeks!

delaware_export · Jan 28, 2020

Asking the question I asked in The other thread:

How, if at all, would the proposed yearly training bill effect this?

Believing As noted, that the regime now is restrictive so much to be challenged, the effect would only seem to make it more restrictive.

Just thinking out loud here.

DaemonAssassin · Jan 28, 2020

delaware_export said:
Asking the question I asked in The other thread:

How, if at all, would the proposed yearly training bill effect this?

Believing As noted, that the regime now is restrictive so much to be challenged, the effect would only seem to make it more restrictive.

Just thinking out loud here.

Yearly training for what?

whistlersmother · Jan 28, 2020

DaemonAssassin said:
Yearly training for what?

Bill in MGA to make those with wear open-carry permits take YEARLY training...

Thread here: https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=5769317

DaemonAssassin · Jan 28, 2020

whistlersmother said:
Bill in MGA to make those with wear open-carry permits take YEARLY training...

Thread here: https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=5769317

GTFOH....

Biggfoot44 · Jan 29, 2020

Back on page 10 , and here :

Prior to Oct 1 , 2013 " civillian " aka Not Armed Security, SPO , Private Investigator , had zero training requirements for W&C .

Malpasso v Pallozzi SCOTUS Cert Petition Filed

The #1 community for Gun Owners of the Northeast

Member Benefits:

Ultimate Member

Ultimate Member

dont be a dumbass

όυ φροντισ

Ultimate Member

Ultimate Member

Where's the beef?

Active Member

Ultimate Member

Ultimate Member

President, MSI

Active Member

Throw bread on me

Ultimate Member

dont be a dumbass

Ultimate Member

Why should we Free BSD?

Peace through strength

Why should we Free BSD?

Ultimate Member

Users who are viewing this thread

Log in

Forum statistics