John's Hopkins Study: gun laws have no effect on death rates

danb · Dec 29, 2019

https://fee.org/articles/california...pact-on-gun-deaths-johns-hopkins-study-finds/

A joint study conducted by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and the University of California at Davis Violence Prevention Research Program found that California’s much-touted mandated background checks had no impact on gun deaths, and researchers are puzzled as to why.

Bloomberg wasted millions ...

Gun controllers conclude we need even more laws....

Facts have no bearing on actual opinions...

Also, the study must have been even worse if Bloomberg and his lapdog Daniel Webster could not even spin this one.

lowoncash · Dec 29, 2019

Bloomberg and Soros don’t care about firearm deaths. They want to disarm Americans before the political takeover.

Steve_Zissou · Dec 29, 2019

When the idealistic naivete of the gun control advocates runs headlong into the ugly reality of 13/50.

solarpower44 · Dec 29, 2019

“California’s failed gun control law appears to be yet another example of experts, to quote the great Milton Friedman, judging “policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.””

That’s because it’s not about the result rather it’s all about their political agendas

pcfixer · Dec 30, 2019

No big revelation here. Nothing to see....move along

JPG · Dec 30, 2019

this is going to be filed and forgot about

Alea Jacta Est · Dec 30, 2019

Gun control not about violence. Not about death. ALL ABOUT CONTROL.

This shit is about fear. If there’s gunviolence and gun death. The average, unarmed citizen, lives in fear. For pols in general and lib pols and socialists specifically, a fearful citizen is easily manipulated //CONTROLLED//.

An armed citizen tends to enjoy much less fear and much more confidence and thus self control.

The lib/socialist DemonRats FEAR the armed and informed citizen perhaps more than anything else. Why? Because the armed and informed citizen doesn’t waste time or energy on fear and can think fir themselves and react appropriately when they are threatened individually or as a free country.

Fear is a four letter word. It scares the shit out of those who would control us.

nedsurf · Dec 30, 2019

Thanks for posting the article. I can use this in the coming weeks. Speaking of failed universal background checks, does anyone know when MD enacted the law that required all handguns be transferred through an FFL or MSP on a 77r?

Boxcab · Dec 30, 2019

Is there a link to the actual paper?

We need to get copies of these and send them to every MGA member.

Hard copies and electronic. Inundate them.

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teratos · Dec 30, 2019

Boxcab said:
Is there a link to the actual paper?

We need to get copies of these and send them to every MGA member.

Hard copies and electronic. Inundate them.

.

All kinds of good stuff in all of their publications.

https://health.ucdavis.edu/vprp/research/Publications.html

nedsurf · Dec 30, 2019

teratos said:
All kinds of good stuff in all of their publications.

https://health.ucdavis.edu/vprp/research/Publications.html

Thanks. From skimming the abstracts, I believe the article is referring to this paper.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30744830

ironpony · Dec 30, 2019

Can’t we write and propose a bill that does absolutely nothing but give them their “feel good, knee jerk, photo op, we did that, bs, bs?
Currently Congress has a 24% approval rate and we let them pass bills into law? Just doesn’t sound right to me.

davsco · Dec 30, 2019

of course gun laws have no effect on death rates. criminals just don't follow the law. looking at the texas church incident, you could safely say that gun control has an inverse relationship to death rates. with more (law abiding) folks having and carrying guns, bad guys are being stopped in their tracks, vs being able to unload a few magazines before being wrestled down.

davsco · Dec 30, 2019

solarpower44 said:
“California’s failed gun control law appears to be yet another example of experts, to quote the great Milton Friedman, judging “policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.””

that really hits the nail on the head. intentions ≠ results. i'd even say the results are the opposite of the intentions.

Allen65 · Dec 30, 2019

So when will Bloomberg be asking for all his donations to JHU back? The University obviously didn't see the strings that were attached.

jefflac02 · Dec 30, 2019

This needs to be used against the Dems in both the house and senate judiciary. Hammered again and again. The question is, how do we hold them accountable for their unjust laws against honest law abiding citizens? Especially when their own constituents don’t hold them accountable?

When they’re wrong, [experts are] rarely held accountable, and they rarely admit it, either. They insist that they were just off on timing, or blindsided by an improbable event, or almost right, or wrong for the right reasons. They have the same repertoire of self-justifications that everyone has, and are no more inclined than anyone else to revise their beliefs about the way the world works, or ought to work, just because they made a mistake.

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ironpony · Dec 30, 2019

Jefflac said:
This needs to be used against the Dems in both the house and senate judiciary. Hammered again and again. The question is, how do we hold them accountable for their unjust laws against honest law abiding citizens? Especially when their own constituents don’t hold them accountable?

When they’re wrong, [experts are] rarely held accountable, and they rarely admit it, either. They insist that they were just off on timing, or blindsided by an improbable event, or almost right, or wrong for the right reasons. They have the same repertoire of self-justifications that everyone has, and are no more inclined than anyone else to revise their beliefs about the way the world works, or ought to work, just because they made a mistake.

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Kind of like a meteorologist ...

1841DNG · Dec 30, 2019

I look forward to this study being completely ignored and buried and certainly not seeing it mentioned in any of the bloomberg news channels youtube has been suddenly promoting like crazy to me.

danb · Dec 30, 2019

1841DNG said:
I look forward to this study being completely ignored and buried and certainly not seeing it mentioned in any of the bloomberg news channels youtube has been suddenly promoting like crazy to me.

It's been mostly ignored by the pro-gun media too.

TheOriginalMexicanBob · Dec 30, 2019

"Nothing to see here...move along..." the mainstream media and Leftists

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