Obama Targeting YOUR GUN RIGHTS After Christmas

Gunny1 · Dec 20, 2015

Here we go ! :mad54:

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/happy-new-year-obama-targeting-your-gun-rights-after-christmas

WeaponsCollector · Dec 20, 2015

Obama recently met with billionaire control freak Michael Bloomturd, here's Bloomturd's wish list from a few years ago...

- Ban "default proceed" sales of guns without due process to anyone placed on hold or delayed during a NICS background check.

- Ban the sale of guns without due process to MILLIONS of Americans on any number of secret government "watch lists".

- Undercover criminal enforcement operations at gun shows(already happening).

- Ban importation of "non sporting" (semi automatic) rifles, shotguns, and handguns(already happening).

- Require REAL-ID(microchip) identification AKA gun licensing and registration for all gun buyers.

- Maintain NICS records for 20 years.

- Increase funding to generate tips from the community on illegal guns.

- Make it a priority for local state and national law enforcement to investigate and prosecute anyone who fails a NICS background check.

- And much more.

SOURCE:
"A Blueprint for Federal Action on Illegal Guns: Regulation, Enforcement, and Best Practices to Combat Illegal Gun Trafficking"
By Billionaire NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg's group "Mayors Against Illegal Guns"
August 2009

Rack&Roll · Dec 20, 2015

Think globally, act locally, they say.

Join MSI members and other MDS members as we gather to counter an anti-gun rally in Montgomery County this afternoon:

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=186111&page=6

OnTarget · Dec 20, 2015

Gunny1 said:
Here we go !

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/happy-new-year-obama-targeting-your-gun-rights-after-christmas

Can someone get this posted on Facebook? This needs to get out there. I'm being blocked by Facebook from sending it.

Minuteman · Dec 20, 2015

EL1227 · Dec 20, 2015

You can thank the GOP this time ...

Bloomberg group cheers gun control in GOP-passed budget, demands more

An anti-gun group applauded the GOP approved $1.8 trillion end-of-the-year spending bill and tax package Saturday, claiming that it will boost gun control efforts and expand background checks.

In a Saturday statement Everytown praised increased funding for the National Instant Criminal Background Check System and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. It also cheered the removal of a proposal to sell surplus military guns.

K31 · Dec 20, 2015

In his defence, as a Muslim, Christmas has little meaning over and above any other day to him.

AssMan · Dec 20, 2015

Much of that can't be accomplished by EO.

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EL1227 · Dec 20, 2015

OnTarget said:
Can someone get this posted on Facebook? This needs to get out there. I'm being blocked by Facebook from sending it.

Use the embedded link to RollCall.com

bshedwick · Dec 20, 2015

Great video!

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Alea Jacta Est · Dec 20, 2015

Anybody who is surprised needs a bib.

Anybody who is appalled needs to do something about it besides simply bitching.

This type of unconstitutional and unilateral action is the foundation of tyranny.

AssMan · Dec 20, 2015

Nonetheless, between this, the no-fly nonsense and CT's craziness, it certainly feels like there is a serious disturbance in the Force.

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Pay2Play · Dec 20, 2015

Obama needs to watch this video and then address the real problem:

tourrider · Dec 20, 2015

Pay2Play said:
Obama needs to watch this video and then address the real problem:

Obama is not concerned with that problem.

It's the armed Saltine- Americans that are his target.

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llkoolkeg · Dec 20, 2015

What a steaming pile we have for a President!

Mark75H · Dec 20, 2015

Its just this again:

The link in the OP is a tertiary story eminating from the now old saw story about redefining "in the business of firearms sales"

Under current laws, only licensed firearms dealers are required to conduct background checks on those trying to buy guns. What’s more, the only individuals considered “in the business” are ones who must apply to be dealers — but that leaves countless people selling firearms without registering.

“Currently many people, even those who sell tons of guns each year, just say that they aren’t ‘in the business,’ or ‘it’s just a hobby,’ in order to get out of the licensing and its attendant background check requirement,” the source told Roll Call. “Because what ‘in the business’ means is so unclear, it’s very difficult and thus very rare for people to be prosecuted under this standard.

A White House spokesman declined to comment on the status of the review and the expected coming executive action. Instead, he referred a reporter to Wednesday’s briefing, during which Earnest called GOP lawmakers’ resistance to changes the “central problem” in the administration’s push to enact tougher gun laws.

“So part of our solution is to consider the range of authorities that are vested in the executive branch to try to advance some of those common-sense policies,” Earnest said. “And we certainly do want to make sure that any sort of steps that the president would take have a strong legal basis in the law.”

Not sure how you can arbitrarily set some number of sales, 50, 60, 70, 75 whatever, as defining "being in the business of sales" without the unenforcable regulation of every sale to be recorded/registered either by law or voluntarily. Would simply be a new regulation followed by the law abiding and ignored by criminals. Big Catch-22, zero net effect.

Talk without action - the normal M.O. of Obama on anything except Obamacare ... which was actually a product of congress and not the White House.

Brooklyn · Dec 20, 2015

Mark75H said:
The link in the OP is a tertiary story eminating from the now old saw story about redefining "in the business of firearms sales"

Not sure how you can arbitrarily set some number of sales, 50, 60, 70, 75 whatever, as defining "being in the business of sales" without the unenforcable regulation of every sale to be recorded/registered either by law or voluntarily. Would simply be a new regulation followed by the law abiding and ignored by criminals. Big Catch-22, zero net effect.

Talk without action - the normal M.O. of Obama on anything except Obamacare ... which was actually a product of congress and not the White House.

Your missing an opportunity.. If they declare no lower bound to be a dealer.. We can all get ffls... Exactly what they tried to stop under Clinton.

So we counter propose.. FFLS for all 100 /yr fee. Problem solved..

Minuteman · Dec 20, 2015

I'm honestly not tracking this issue, but the following article tends to suggest that their is something being cooked up, and Bloomberg is in the mix:

http://crimeresearch.org/2015/12/pr...-house-to-executive-action-obama-is-planning/

zoostation · Dec 20, 2015

Everybody is pondering what they could be cooking up. A few are likely obvious, some are not.

The obvious one will be adding the "no-fly" list to NICS denials. This is worrisome not only because of the effect on gun rights, but the effect on free speech rights. Pro Second Amendment and other conservative advocates will be less inclined to publicly criticize the government for fear of being added to this arbitrary "list" and losing their gun rights. And perhaps they'd be worried with good reason. After all we're talking about the administration that wasn't afraid to use the IRS as a club against political critics, why would the no-fly list be any different.

Another likely one is quantifying the number of guns a person can sell in a year without an FFL. This could drastically affect collectors who buy and sell amongst themselves frequently. Those old enough can remember the days before FOPA when the limit was four per year (regardless of how many one acquired) and ATF set up stings to make felons out of collectors who sold five.

Additional and far-reaching bans on imports. This is big. He could drive prices through the roof and hurt production by massive bans on many gun and ammo related imports as non sporting. Wouldn't slow down gun possession any, but it would make a day at the range a whole new kind of expensive. Which kind of goes along with the communist, err I mean Democratic Party, idea of patiently whittling away at gun rights over decades.

Adding MSR's and hi-cap mags to the NFA list. Doubtful, as the NFA language is pretty clear on what defines a DD, AOW, etc. He could try to end-around the law by declaring some MSR's as "easily convertible" to machine guns but it is doubtful it would stand up for long in court.

Here's a good analysis by National Review which also draws upon the history of extreme presidential executive orders in the past. It's a little scary what they think he might be able to get away with.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/337789/gun-control-executive-order-scott-coffina

Vile Shadow · Dec 20, 2015

K31 said:
In his defence, as a Muslim, Christmas has little meaning over and above any other day to him.

...Just another day on the golf course.

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