2021 MGA Senate Testimony Rules

MJD438 · Nov 6, 2020

https://wtop.com/maryland/2020/11/maryland-senate-president-unveils-operations-plan-for-covid-19/

Ain't pretty - as I have suspected for months, especially with Frosh's proclamation that there is no requirement for public input into legislation - very limiting, to the point of shutting out the public.

Biggest takeaway: severe limits to public testimony, see the quote below.

Maryland Matters via WTOP said:
Members of the public who wish to testify on a bill in committee will do so via Zoom, and the number of witnesses will be capped — four in favor, two “favorable with amendments, and four opposed. (For more contentious issues, the numbers can be doubled.)

Matlack · Nov 6, 2020

MJD438 said:
https://wtop.com/maryland/2020/11/maryland-senate-president-unveils-operations-plan-for-covid-19/

Ain't pretty - as I have suspected for months, especially with Frosh's proclamation that there is no requirement for public input into legislation - very limiting, to the point of shutting out the public.

Biggest takeaway:

I feel a lawsuit coming on.

BeoBill · Nov 6, 2020

MJD438 said:
https://wtop.com/maryland/2020/11/maryland-senate-president-unveils-operations-plan-for-covid-19/

Ain't pretty - as I have suspected for months, especially with Frosh's proclamation that there is no requirement for public input into legislation - very limiting, to the point of shutting out the public.

Biggest takeaway: severe limits to public testimony, see the quote below.

This is definite class action territory. This may be the issue that unifies the 2A community with others in this province.

Doctor_M · Nov 6, 2020

Just who the F does this guy think he is????

Bob A · Nov 6, 2020

The Dems in the GA have never wanted citizen input, especially from those whose views differed from the Usual Subjects.

Witness the construction on Bladen Street and Lawyers' Mall; the delicate sensibilities of the GA required that they wreck the area to avoid being triggered by sign-carrying pro-2A demonstrators.

Then they stopped consolidating gun bills on a single day, instead spreading them throughout the session, with delayed public notice of when the hearings would take place. Once in the hearing chamber, Delegate Attenbeary demonstrated her total disrespect for anyone who dared question her decrees. Forcible removal of knowledgeable former officials was another indication that dissent would not be tolerated.

At this point, closing the legislature to public access is only a formality. All the hard work has already taken place.

Y'all better just learn your place, which is definitely not anywhere near our legislators.
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welder516 · Nov 6, 2020

He is king

Make no mistake once they even get more power they will use it . They all are drunk on power

smokey · Nov 6, 2020

Take away our opportunity to politely provide feedback and people will decide those BLM and antifa people may be on to something for advancing political agendas.

Doctor_M · Nov 6, 2020

I can't put into print what I'm thinking right now... but you fine people can probably guess.

whistlersmother · Nov 6, 2020

Perhaps its time to test the "no protest at politicians' homes" law?

Allen65 · Nov 6, 2020

Doctor_M said:
Just who the F does this guy think he is????

He thinks he's someone who owes the Party for his job, not the voters. And in MD, he's right.

smokey · Nov 6, 2020

in this....

Members of the public who wish to testify on a bill in committee will do so via Zoom, and the number of witnesses will be capped — four in favor, two “favorable with amendments, and four opposed. (For more contentious issues, the numbers can be doubled.)

...is the cap on the public testifying or on "experts" that the legislators bring up to testify? If the later, it doesn't seem as egregious.

rambling_one · Nov 6, 2020

The 1st amendment guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government.

It doesn’t exclude legislation as far as I know.

MJD438 · Nov 6, 2020

Total number of people testifying, no clarity provided on how the 8 are selected.

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smokey · Nov 6, 2020

MJD438 said:
Total number of people testifying, no clarity provided on how the 8 are selected.

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hmmmmm. It artificially weights it as well. Howard county schools just did this with a debate about SROs. Even though the community was overwhelmingly in support of keeping them, they chose members for a panel in equal ratios....artificially bumping up the impact of those in favor of removing SROs. It sounds "fair", but it isn't the voice of the people.

Kicken Wing · Nov 6, 2020

MJD438 said:
https://wtop.com/maryland/2020/11/maryland-senate-president-unveils-operations-plan-for-covid-19/

Ain't pretty - as I have suspected for months, especially with Frosh's proclamation that there is no requirement for public input into legislation - very limiting, to the point of shutting out the public.

Biggest takeaway: severe limits to public testimony, see the quote below.

WOW! I had a feeling the rules would be ugly this year, covid being the excuse. That's pretty dirty. So basically they are telling us to F off and they will do as they please this year. :mad54:

dgapilot · Nov 6, 2020

Kicken Wing said:
WOW! I had a feeling the rules would be ugly this year, covid being the excuse. That's pretty dirty. So basically they are telling us to F off and they will do as they please this year.

They have been doing that for years, now it will just be more overt.

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Art3 · Nov 6, 2020

dgapilot said:
They have been doing that for years, now it will just be more overt.

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It sounds like a more pro-active denial than the passive ignoring that we're used to :rolleyes:

MJD438 · Nov 6, 2020

Bryan Sears has a video recording from a presser convened by Senate President Ferguson earlier today: https://www.facebook.com/626382285/videos/10157644333327286/.

ETA - 46 minutes and you do not need to log into Facebook to view.

smokey · Nov 7, 2020

MJD438 said:
Bryan Sears has a video recording from a presser convened by Senate President Ferguson earlier today: https://www.facebook.com/626382285/videos/10157644333327286/.

ETA - 46 minutes and you do not need to log into Facebook to view.

8:05 is the question about public testimony. He essentially replies that not many people show up to testify anyway. So it's not that big of a deal. Also people can send in electronic testimony. Wtf

Matlack · Nov 7, 2020

All they need is 4 anti's to sign up and feign their opposition all while giving support.

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