Bushy HBAR police trade ins

A1Uni · Dec 10, 2013

lee2 said:
even though the "bushmaster" rifle was on the regulated list., MSP allowed Bushmaster HBARS to be sold as cash n carry.
i expect this is still the case.

Unfortunately, no, and we asked more than once.

ObsceneJesster · Dec 10, 2013

Look at it on the bright side.... Maryland is keeping POS rifles out of your hands. :eek:

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Alphabrew · Dec 10, 2013

The government knows what's best

atblis · Dec 11, 2013

Is the government allowed to make laws favoring one company over another based solely on name? I guess Bushmaster has to be the one to sue.

jvegas · Jan 20, 2014

A1Uniform said:
Unfortunately, no, and we asked more than once.

I bet it was a new hire that didn't know better

NateIU10 · Jan 20, 2014

jvegas said:
I bet it was a new hire that didn't know better

MSP appears to be taking the position that ANY semiautomatic rifle or handgun manufactured by Bushmaster is banned as either an Assault Long Gun or Assault Pistol.

It makes no sense, and is wrong. The lists are of specific/specified firearms, and models were produced with those names. It may take a court case or other challenge to fix it.

Here is the rifle:
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=2&t=222400

Here is the pistol:

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ETA: Joe, does that mean you would do a transfer for one of the HBARs listed in this thread?

jvegas · Jan 20, 2014

NateIU10 said:
MSP appears to be taking the position that ANY semiautomatic rifle or handgun manufactured by Bushmaster is banned as either an Assault Long Gun or Assault Pistol.

It makes no sense, and is wrong. The lists are of specific/specified firearms, and models were produced with those names. It may take a court case or other challenge to fix it.

Here is the rifle:

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=2&t=222400

Here is the pistol:

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By that same logic, only Colt HBAR Sporters are legal (no other brand). I've yet to see a letter from
MSP on the matter. The "Bushmaster Semi-Auto Rifle" is not an AR15, nor made by Bushmaster.

NateIU10 · Jan 20, 2014

jvegas said:
By that same logic, only Colt HBAR Sporters are legal (no other brand). I've yet to see a letter from
MSP on the matter. The "Bushmaster Semi-Auto Rifle" is not an AR15, nor made by Bushmaster.

Actually, their logic is even more strained than that. It would be the same thing if there were a company named "P.A.W.S." that produced rifles. Under the MSP's logic, any carbine manufactured by any company named "P.A.W.S." would be a banned Assault Long Gun.

The Bushmaster Rifle was manufactured by Gwinn firearms, and then Bushmaster Firearms as the "Bushmaster Assault Rifle". It is nothing like an AR15. The MSP is not making any sense on this one.

A1Uni · Jan 20, 2014

jvegas said:
I bet it was a new hire that didn't know better

Not going to name drop, but the persons I spoke with have both worked there for quite some time, anyway, given the current policy on HBARs, I'm not rocking the boat over a single exclusion.

jvegas · Jan 21, 2014

A1Uniform said:
Not going to name drop, but the persons I spoke with have both worked there for quite some time, anyway, given the current policy on HBARs, I'm not rocking the boat over a single exclusion.

Probably the same person that I spoke to today that said the same thing.

Vile Shadow · Jan 25, 2014

PJDiesel said:
I would, but the only FFL close to me is notorious for being a ***** and knows less about the law than most NON-FFL holders.

You must live near Rick's Gun and Pawn. :lol2:

NateIU10 said:
The Bushmaster Rifle was manufactured by Gwinn firearms, and then Bushmaster Firearms as the "Bushmaster Assault Rifle". It is nothing like an AR15. The MSP is not making any sense on this one.

I believe this was the original regulated Bushie...

...certainly not this, the one I have. :facepalm:

I dunno what dumbass can't tell one of those from the other. :sad20:

Pinecone · Jan 26, 2014

Sling Blade said:
I dunno what dumbass can't tell one of those from the other.

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AGs office and MSP it seems.

erwos · Jan 26, 2014

A1Uniform said:
Not going to name drop, but the persons I spoke with have both worked there for quite some time, anyway, given the current policy on HBARs, I'm not rocking the boat over a single exclusion.

The problem isn't just HBARs, it's whether you can buy the M17S or ACR. I'd love to hear the logical contortion that would result in three completely different rifles being the same "model" of a particular gun.

Pinecone said:
AGs office and MSP it seems.

I don't know if the AG's office has weighed in. This would be a particularly good question to get them on the record with, especially if written in the form of "Does the Bushmaster rifle on the assault long guns list refer to the Gwinn Firearms Bushmaster rifle?"

jvegas · Jan 27, 2014

A senior trooper at firearms registration confirmed to me in writing that ALL Bushmaster semi auto rifles are banned.

Pinecone · Jan 27, 2014

I think that would be an easy win in court, but if Bushmaster doesn't care to pursue it, why should we care?

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