Maryland Concealed carry for physicians

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  • Mark75H

    MD Wear&Carry Instructor
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    Sep 25, 2011
    17,141
    Outside the Gates
    Welcome to the arbitraryness of G&S ... this is what the Woollard lawsuit is all about
     

    teratos

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    Jan 22, 2009
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    Bel Air
    Thanks for all of the input. I do carry a script pad, but that does not appear to be enough for G&S.

    When I sent an e-mail to the MSP this is one of the responses I got from them:

    "You would need to show and prove that you carry around like say large quantities of narcotics that might be dangerous and someone addicted would want to take from you. etc. or documented by police report that you have an active threat on your life from say a disgruntled patient etc. Something that says you need this permit because something actually happened to you in the past or there is a potential for something to happen to you due to what I carry with me. Do you have active threats on you and can back that up with a police report? do you make large deposits of cash to banks from your practice and can prove it with deposit slips? Do you carry quantities of CDS like Oxycontin or hydromorphone, Dilaudid Morphine, hydrocodone etc. that would make you a target? You need to articulate why you need one other then just because I'm a physician"

    I work for a hospital so I don't do the deposits. There are virtually no docs these days that carry narcotics around. I explained to them, that I do trauma call at night in bad neighborhoods, and that I have been on TV and the radio. There response came back the same. I need to have something happen to me before they will issue. i.e. get killed or I am SOL.

    Nothing is stopping you from putting oxycodone in your black bag. I keep some in mine in case I make a house call and someone needs something for pain.
     
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    Straightshooter

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    Aug 28, 2010
    5,015
    Baltimore County
    I don't get it. They tell you what you need to do and you have it in your power to comply. What more could you ask for?

    If they tell me I need to own a business and make deposits, guess what I would do? I can't believe there aren't licensed lemonade stands popping up everywhere.
     

    montoya32

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    Jun 16, 2010
    11,311
    Harford Co
    There are several physicians on the forum with a permit. You are correct that you still need G&S. IMO, every physician is a walking narcotic dispensary. You may not be necessarily transporting narcotics, but do you have an Rx pad? What if some enterprising young junkie were to put a gun to your head, open up the yellow pages to the pharmacy section, and tell you to start calling in Vicodin to every pharmacy in a 10 mile radius. That would be a lucrative day for him, would it not? You mentioned that not many physicians transport narcotics. I argue that having a few Percocet in your black bag is a good idea for emergencies. It may be a good practice for you to have some. It can be the basis for G&S.

    Interesting thought. Wouldn't someone with prescription for a narcotic be eligible since they could be robbed of said drug? Not aiming this at your Dr. T, just a hypothetical.
     

    Paper Puncher

    Zombie Mall Ninjas?
    Mar 25, 2013
    51
    Casinoland, MD
    What a screwed up law, hope Woodard leads to reciprocity. I can drive from Texas to here concealed, then I have to stop and lock in the trunk before crossing The Maryland line...
     

    teratos

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    Jan 22, 2009
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    Interesting thought. Wouldn't someone with prescription for a narcotic be eligible since they could be robbed of said drug? Not aiming this at your Dr. T, just a hypothetical.

    I suppose. I bet that back of yours is killing you....
     

    Pinecone

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    Feb 4, 2013
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    Interesting thought. Wouldn't someone with prescription for a narcotic be eligible since they could be robbed of said drug? Not aiming this at your Dr. T, just a hypothetical.

    A question of quantity.

    A doctor can be carrying a lot more than a legal individual. And how is the drug addict know you have X drug, a doctor is assumed to have some good drugs.
     

    teratos

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    A question of quantity.

    A doctor can be carrying a lot more than a legal individual. And how is the drug addict know you have X drug, a doctor is assumed to have some good drugs.

    This, and kidnap a doc with a Rx pad, and you can get quite a lot of "good stuff". OxyContin 40 mg goes for $40/pill. The typical Rx would be 60-90/month. Multiply by 20.
     

    Lostinbmore

    Junior grade mop slopper
    Dec 19, 2012
    250
    Baltimore
    It does allow others with the same access to get a permit. Example: my son in law is a pharmacy tech at a pharmacy. He makes deliveries of drugs to patients and nursing homes. He's not a Doctor or a Phatmacist yet he has a CCW that allows carry while going to and from work, while making deliveries and while carrying narcotic drugs.
    If you wish for everyone who passes the G&S muster under existing rules to hold off getting a permit until the masses are treated fairly, then you're screaming to the wrong audience. Most here want just the opposite, permits for as many as possible.
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    I hate writing from a phone. I am a supporter of ccw not the law. Sorry for the confusion.

    I was suggesting that if one circumstance of being a catalyst of bodily harm was able to be used (script pads) then possession of regulated arms should be as well.

    I also was trying to present that if script possessing professionals are allowed ccw because of the pad, then it should open up for all dea# script writers.


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    jpo183

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 20, 2013
    4,116
    in Maryland
    I think one of the items that people need to think about, is how they can "alter" their life style to fit the G&S or if you are granted a CCW how you can make the restriction "never" exsist.

    I think what Teratos is saying, is if you can do something that would let you carry do it, even if you do not normally do it.

    IE If you can carry a bunch of pills, do it. Hence you now have a G&S
     

    tc617

    USN Sub Vet
    Jan 12, 2012
    2,287
    Yuma, Arizona
    My wife is an RN and a Sexual/Physical Assault Investigative Nurse and a Forensic Nurse Examiner could probably get a carry permit. She works with Southern Maryland detectives (Charles, St Mary's, Calvert), collects evidence from victims, inmates, suspects and testifies in court as an expert witness. She has helped send a few people to the Graybar hotel and has received quite a few documented threats over the years. Peace orders mean very little to these people. The sad thing is my wife doesn't feel comfortable carrying.
     

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