Disappointing Hogan the Best Option in Anti-Gun Maryland

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  • RoadDawg

    Nos nostraque Deo
    Dec 6, 2010
    94,053
    False dilemma.

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    Fine... :sad20:

    Waste your vote on Mickey Mouse. It is your right...

    Folks on the right have been doing it for decades... which is why we are controlled by the left today.

    And it is why the left still keeps winning... THEY vote to WIN by any means necessary...

    Our side is so divided up that the only place we’ll ever stand together is in the unemployment lines and when we have to turn in our guns because we vote divided.

    I still remember all the folks who fought against Trump tooth and nail. Said all manner of evil things about how they were never going to vote for him “because of their principles”. And what a disaster he would be for 2A, the economy, world wars, etc... etc... etc...

    Principles???

    I loath violence of any kind... that’s my principles.

    But... DAMNED if I won’t use it to fight the evils of others who deem it appropriate to use against the innocent.

    Just the same as I will use my votes to elect folks who do not completely fit into my ideals... if by doing so... it causes a shift in the direction which does fit... and stops further progression to the left.
     

    HeatSeeker

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 18, 2012
    3,058
    Maryland
    Disappointed sure, but what are you gonna do, vote for a Democrat. I will NOT!!! After the 2016 election, the forever ongoing Russia Collusion witch-hunt, and this recent Kavanaugh insanity, I plan to vote for every Republican on the ballot even if I have no idea who they are.
     

    PowPow

    Where's the beef?
    Nov 22, 2012
    4,709
    Howard County
    Consider the results of the 2014 Virginia Governor's race:

    Democrat Terry McAuliffe 1,069,859 47.75%
    Republican Ken Cuccinelli 1,013,355 45.23%
    Libertarian Robert Sarvis 146,084 6.52%
    Write-ins 11,091 0.50%

    The interesting tactic in the above result was an Obama money bundler was found to have been funding both the democrats as well as Sarvis.

    I've reconsidered my vote for Shawn Quinn after researching his campaign a bit more. I'm going to have to vote Hogan.
     

    RoadDawg

    Nos nostraque Deo
    Dec 6, 2010
    94,053
    Consider the results of the 2014 Virginia Governor's race:

    Democrat Terry McAuliffe 1,069,859 47.75%
    Republican Ken Cuccinelli 1,013,355 45.23%
    Libertarian Robert Sarvis 146,084 6.52%
    Write-ins 11,091 0.50%

    The interesting tactic in the above result was an Obama money bundler was found to have been funding both the democrats as well as Sarvis.

    I've reconsidered my vote for Shawn Quinn after researching his campaign a bit more. I'm going to have to vote Hogan.

    In that race... the dems funding the dems was not the thing which made so much of a difference. Dems fund dems. It is expected.

    However, when a major dem funding block was donated to the libertarian candidate’s campaign... it was immediately obvious that they were targeting the conservative votes and taking the edge away from the republican candidate. Sadly for the people of Virginia... it worked... and the dem candidate was able to win by splitting the conservative vote between the republican (...who would’ve won) and the libertarian (...who never had a chance of winning)

    The same thing can happen here.
     

    omegared24

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 23, 2011
    4,747
    Ijamsville, MD
    In that race... the dems funding the dems was not the thing which made so much of a difference. Dems fund dems. It is expected.

    However, when a major dem funding block was donated to the libertarian candidate’s campaign... it was immediately obvious that they were targeting the conservative votes and taking the edge away from the republican candidate. Sadly for the people of Virginia... it worked... and the dem candidate was able to win by splitting the conservative vote between the republican (...who would’ve won) and the libertarian (...who never had a chance of winning)

    You're obviously right and you continue to argue with people that don't know any better. I sincerely admire your tenacity but you can't teach a pig to sing.

    In voting you have to pick one VIABLE candidate. Going to the polls with your moral victory will leave you with a sticker you can post on Facebook. Then you can tell everyone how you aren't responsible for the less than perfect candidate because you wrote in Superman...congrats and thanks for nothing.
     

    SCV/SAR Patriot

    UNRECONSTRUCTED
    I wonder what elections, and our country, would look like if more of us actually voted for our principles.

    Meanwhile,

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    (For the uninitiated, "haters gonna hate." Not that any of you are necessarily disreputable.)

    I know what you mean, sometimes from some of the comments on here I think I stumbled by mistake on a cake forum then look up and it says Maryland Shooters. LOL
     

    RoadDawg

    Nos nostraque Deo
    Dec 6, 2010
    94,053
    You're obviously right and you continue to argue with people that don't know any better. I sincerely admire your tenacity but you can't teach a pig to sing.

    In voting you have to pick one VIABLE candidate. Going to the polls with your moral victory will leave you with a sticker you can post on Facebook. Then you can tell everyone how you aren't responsible for the less than perfect candidate because you wrote in Superman...congrats and thanks for nothing.

    I know...

    But maybe one can stop others from thinking the pig is right.

    IF The voters who just HAD to vote for the Libertarian in Virginia... had instead voted for the Republican... They would not now be stuck with the Democrat who is doing everything to take as many of the freedoms and rights as he can from them. YAY... for those voters who "voted their principles". THAT really helped the Dems screw the entire state. :sad20: I am certain that the other conservatives in the State of Virginia are SOOOO proud of the ones who helped the Dems screw them. Helping to move the pendulum further to the left... One "ALSO RAN" at a time...
     

    RoadDawg

    Nos nostraque Deo
    Dec 6, 2010
    94,053
    For the Buckleys out there, do you have a red line that cannot be crossed without losing your vote, or are you blindly loyal to the party?

    "Buckleys"?

    Placing limiting categories on the issue (name calling) will never allow one to see the whole picture.

    An overall assessment of the political situation should determine the vote. NOT any myopic view of one particular event or person involved in it.

    Allowing one event or action to blind one to the overall picture is a sure way to miss the truths that are blatantly obvious to others. The situation requires that you focus... see the whole picture... make an educated and sage choice. Rather than zero in on one event and lose sight of the goal.
     

    omegared24

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 23, 2011
    4,747
    Ijamsville, MD
    For the Buckleys out there, do you have a red line that cannot be crossed without losing your vote, or are you blindly loyal to the party?


    This is cute. Almost as easy as avoiding responsibility by not voting for the best choice.

    You guys do realize that you can vote for Hogan and just say you didn't vote. It will still get you invites to your liberal holiday parties.
     

    44man

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 19, 2013
    10,119
    southern md
    First, I gave the doc with great hair my word that myself, my family and friends and my employees will be voting hogan, I may come off my 9 year 4 months and 2 day sober to be able to do it but my word is my bond

    So if re-elected next session hogan calls for tightening the red flag law, call for making possession of mags over ten round a felony, bans possession of 80% firearms, bans mail order ammo and bans ar upper sales and back ground checks on FTF sales and who knows what else he wants to ban.

    How are the ones pushing hogan so strongly going to stomach this what will they be saying, other than at least it’s not bj?

    This is a real question and I rather see real answers instead of folks flaming me for asking this question so many times , but I ask because I really want to know and no one here has really answered it.
     

    Boondock Saint

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 11, 2008
    24,325
    White Marsh
    100% chance you will vote for Hogan. I'm fine with a few insults and you'll be able to brag at your holiday parties.

    I've not insulted you. Further, you've posted things that clearly reference me among others with less than flattering things to say. Lastly, I've already cast my vote via absentee ballot, and I promise you that I didn't vote for Hogan for governor.

    Do you care to answer my question or just continue to obfuscate?
     
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    RoadDawg

    Nos nostraque Deo
    Dec 6, 2010
    94,053
    First, I gave the doc with great hair my word that myself, my family and friends and my employees will be voting hogan, I may come off my 9 year 4 months and 2 day sober to be able to do it but my word is my bond

    So if re-elected next session hogan calls for tightening the red flag law, call for making possession of mags over ten round a felony, bans possession of 80% firearms, bans mail order ammo and bans ar upper sales and back ground checks on FTF sales and who knows what else he wants to ban.

    How are the ones pushing hogan so strongly going to stomach this what will they be saying, other than at least it’s not bj?

    This is a real question and I rather see real answers instead of folks flaming me for asking this question so many times , but I ask because I really want to know and no one here has really answered it.

    You're comparing a "What if" to a "Will be"... and asking for an answer that no one can give. We must take our "best shot" now. Or else... we lose completely.

    As I have said many times to folks about this matter... I DO NOT THINK HOGAN IS A GREAT BOON TO MARYLAND 2A COMMUNITY... He is not a savior by anyone's stretch of the imagination. What he is... is a line that keeps bringing the state closer to accepting the fact that the republicans are not the devils they've been told to believe they are. And because of that... we see attitudes changing in the overall political picture here. Now is NOT the time to abandon the vehicle which is moving the state to the right. And it is CERTAINLY not the time to allow a Socialist to take over because of a SINGLE issue butt hurt.

    Yes Hogan is seen smiling in a picture with a bunch of women who hate our rights... His only viable opponent thinks he is running for the Governorship of Virginia. It is politics and folks involved do silly things.

    But, OUR State has been making good progress away from the far left for several years now. We are finally seeing a rise in the level of voices from OUR side for a change. Now is NOT the time to throw that away.
     

    Boondock Saint

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 11, 2008
    24,325
    White Marsh
    "Buckleys"?

    Placing limiting categories on the issue (name calling) will never allow one to see the whole picture.

    An overall assessment of the political situation should determine the vote. NOT any myopic view of one particular event or person involved in it.

    Allowing one event or action to blind one to the overall picture is a sure way to miss the truths that are blatantly obvious to others. The situation requires that you focus... see the whole picture... make an educated and sage choice. Rather than zero in on one event and lose sight of the goal.

    Is there a red line that costs a Republican candidate your vote if it's crossed, or do they get your vote just because they have an R after their name on the ballot?
     

    PowPow

    Where's the beef?
    Nov 22, 2012
    4,709
    Howard County
    Initially I was going to vote for "None of the Above". Then I discovered that Shawn Quinn can shoot targets. But, I later researched him and listened to some of his positions and ideas. I just don't think he has the chops for the job. And, like many Libertarians, he's sort of a dingbat.

    So, that leaves me back to a choice between Governor "Take'em" Hogan and "None of the Above". I just think the cost of my vote not going for Hogan is too high if it results in Jealous winning. Hence, my reference to what happened in Virginia in post #183. We cannot let Jealous win by fragmenting our numbers, which are already stacked against us in this state. It will be a painful 4-8 years if that happens - worse than O'Malley ever was.
     

    RoadDawg

    Nos nostraque Deo
    Dec 6, 2010
    94,053
    Is there a red line that costs a Republican candidate your vote if it's crossed, or do they get your vote just because they have an R after their name on the ballot?

    If your question weren’t so ridiculously obvious as an accusation... I might be inclined to think you actually wanted to engage in an intelligent dialogue.

    But alas... there is that accusation. The one that attempts to establish the notion that my only consideration for a candidate is whether or not there is an R by their name. And THAT is a falsehood. A falsehood easily debunked by several posts which I’ve submitted over the years.

    Spin it however you wish... and try to have fun with it... in your mind.

    I have explained my point well enough that it should be easily understood by anyone willing to read it.

    Have a nice evening.
     

    GTOGUNNER

    IANAL, PATRIOT PICKET!!
    Patriot Picket
    Dec 16, 2010
    5,492
    Carroll County!
    Hogan said he "wrote in " his father rather than vote for Trump. He didn't have to say anything. He came out against Kavanaugh, he didn't have to say anything.

    He doesn't deserve my vote.

    I do not give a rats ass if Jealous wins, that is not my problem, it is Hogans. If he loses, it is his fault.

    We may all suffer, but maybe the Republican party will come out stronger.
     

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