Guns and Medical Marijuana: An Illegal Mix, According to Feds

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  • Jim12

    Let Freedom Ring
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    Jan 30, 2013
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    Absolutely. Do people really believe that there are suddenly hundreds of thousands of people who have a verifiable medical need for pot? Of course not.
    I can say that since MD legalized it, I smell it probably 2-3 times a week while I’m driving back and forth to work. (Beltway, 95, all over the Area) I’ve seen MANY people driving down the road with the window cracked smoking a joint. I wish these morons would get the fvck off of the road.


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    Gosh, who would ever have foreseen that? I'm shocked. :rolleyes:
     

    Sundazes

    My brain hurts
    MDS Supporter
    Nov 13, 2006
    21,172
    Arkham
    When my son was doing a fund raiser for his troop, we stopped in a place that looked like a vitamin/organic food/foo foo shop. The placed was lined up with soccer moms and business men. We asked to speak to the manager. He informed us it was a dispensary and that are not allowed to advertise. I asked for a donation and he said no and asked us to leave. Point is, by the looks and name, you would never know what it was. This joint is is the heart of Timonium and like I said was filled with soccer moms. None of them looked sick.
    My son loves shooting. I showed him the 77R with and MJ question on it and told him if he ever wants to own a handgun, don't get the MJ card. He is a teenager so....
     

    Moon

    M-O-O-N, that spells...
    Jan 4, 2013
    2,365
    In Orbit
    I’ll try to answer your questions...
    “Where is the constitution?” Are you asking about the location of the COTUS?

    Then...
    “is the federal government given the power to create a law banning the smoking of pot?”

    Or was that all one question?
    "is" was a typo. It happens.

    Show your pot to the nearest federal drug enforcement agent and ask them.
    Don't falsely accuse me of possessing an illegal drug, and a federal drug enforcement agent couldn't point to the law either.



    Otherwise... look no further than The COTUS, Article 1; section
    So since the law was made by the Congress... and The COTUS says they shall do that...

    8.1 The Congress shall have the power...
    (continued)...
    8.18
    To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

    I guess that’s what gives the Federal Government the power.

    OK, so you can't.
     

    RoadDawg

    Nos nostraque Deo
    Dec 6, 2010
    94,053
    RD, I am only quoting you to ask a general question and not add to the argument.




    In Edgewater, on route 2, across from the friggin Giant! A brick and mortar store, should not be hard to catch. :lol2:

    Why is the law not being enforced? My only guess is big $. Sorry but I find this dilemma comical. Argue on my friends.

    Selective enforcement by the State of Maryland. Yes... it is about $$$ and it is STILL contrary to Federal Law.

    It is a means to an end... until the Federal Law is changed... it is a democrat back door gun ban for anyone caught with both weed and firearms.

    But it is an effective trap which will catch many who are not smart enough to see it and stay away.

    We must be careful and realize that the facts are “what is”... not “what folks may want them to be”.
     

    kalister1

    R.I.P.
    May 16, 2008
    4,814
    Pasadena Maryland
    I think that If John Q Citizen looses his right to own a gun because he has a POT card, the DR. who writes the Scipt for the POT should loose his license to practice. No script no POT!
    Let's not forget where you get your CARD!
     

    RoadDawg

    Nos nostraque Deo
    Dec 6, 2010
    94,053
    "is" was a typo. It happens.

    Don't falsely accuse me of possessing an illegal drug, and a federal drug enforcement agent couldn't point to the law either.





    OK, so you can't.

    I did not write the laws.
    I simply reiterated them. To hopefully save someone the pain of getting caught up in doing the wrong thing because they fail to understand the laws.
    Therefore haranguing me because of those laws will serve no purpose.
    Go argue with yourself.
     

    ironpony

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    Jun 8, 2013
    7,145
    Davidsonville
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    smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
    31,369
    Yep, both my pill head brothers got their weed cards and now buy weed that’s supposed to be a better grade for other dopeheads and turn the profits into their preferred dope pills. They can’t od soon enough for me.

    And since the drs found that I have cancer every one of them are pushing a weed card on me. I have to make an ass of myself to get them to stop pushing it on me. I have no need for it nor would I ever risk my 2a rights for anything ever.

    Weed, alcohol, heroine, bath salts, meth, opioids,are all just a way to escape reality. I understand the draw but we would all be better off without them all.
    For the cancer thing, I've known a few people that have really benefited from weed while on chemo. My one buddy had brain cancer back in high school. Pot helped manage pain and appetite to a level that kept him generally well without needing heavier things like opiates.

    I also know people with gut issues that have had pretty good success using it to help manage symptoms.

    I applaud your choice to tough it out without the assistance of drugs, but just felt like tossing those examples out there. I'll be sending some prayers your way to help. Take care brothaman.
     

    rseymorejr

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    Feb 28, 2011
    25,945
    Harford County
    I think that If John Q Citizen looses his right to own a gun because he has a POT card, the DR. who writes the Scipt for the POT should loose his license to practice. No script no POT!
    Let's not forget where you get your CARD!

    I know someone that owns a medical marijuana dispensary. He openly advertises that he has a Dr that can write scripts for people, he even states that people that don't want their primary care Dr knowing about it can come and see his Dr. I'm not sure what criteria the Dr uses to determine whether a medical marijuana card is appropriate but I suspect as long as their check clears and they have a pulse, they will be good to go.
     

    44man

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 19, 2013
    10,119
    southern md
    For the cancer thing, I've known a few people that have really benefited from weed while on chemo. My one buddy had brain cancer back in high school. Pot helped manage pain and appetite to a level that kept him generally well without needing heavier things like opiates.

    I also know people with gut issues that have had pretty good success using it to help manage symptoms.

    I applaud your choice to tough it out without the assistance of drugs, but just felt like tossing those examples out there. I'll be sending some prayers your way to help. Take care brothaman.

    First, thanks for the kind words!

    Second, I have heard about weed and giving folks pain relief and helping them eat, well from first hand experience, nearly 40 years ago, weed doesn’t help with pain near as much as liquor but pain can be controlled without either. As for making someone want to eat , it does give you the munchies but heck I wang to eat anyway, it’s keeping the food inside that I have trouble with but if it comes out I just eat more.

    I just don’t see the draw of weed nor the medical benefits. Also I have seen first hand that many if not most people with weed cards aren’t using it medicinally

    It’s just a way around the law but it’s not worth giving up my 2a rights but I guess it is to others
     

    44man

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    Feb 19, 2013
    10,119
    southern md
    I know someone that owns a medical marijuana dispensary. He openly advertises that he has a Dr that can write scripts for people, he even states that people that don't want their primary care Dr knowing about it can come and see his Dr. I'm not sure what criteria the Dr uses to determine whether a medical marijuana card is appropriate but I suspect as long as their check clears and they have a pulse, they will be good to go.

    Yep, a man I have done millions of dollars of work for told me in a meeting a month ago he now owns a dispensary and is the largest investor in the 2nd largest grow operation in this country. He ask about my cancer and back issues and about my dads ailments and gave me his drs card and said if I wanted all it would take for both myself and my dad to get a card was a phone call, and for free , the cost of the weed would more than enough cover the cost of the card.

    I declined and won’t work for him again

    I can’t have my money or reputation mixed up in that shyte
     

    ironpony

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    Jun 8, 2013
    7,145
    Davidsonville
    44man, I feel for you and your condition, best of luck to you.


    Full disclosure, I have no need for weed and as for alcohol (an addictive drug) I feel much better retaining my fine motor skills! My father liked to drink so he was not around therefore we did not get to know him well, had to go to the bar to talk to him, finally lost him a few years ago, he did his liver in. Yeah, try to tell me alcohol (an addictive drug) is better.
    When you have a multitude of attorneys that specialize in alcohol (an addictive drug) abuse defense that has to make you wonder since it is a legal drug. Now that weed is becoming more socially acceptable you do not see those attorneys advertising as much! ?
    As for people I know in the weed industry, and due to the negativity here I will only say I have never seen such opulence and am driven to do better seeing how successful one can be. Good people.

    Ok, it’s a little cooler so ... which rifle wants to go out in the field with me today? Decisions decisions and where’s my caffeine!
     
    May 19, 2016
    98
    So judging by what I see trending here , recreational alcohol and weed smokers should be allowed guns so I assume recreational bath soaps, meth, and heroine users should also be trusted with guns also?

    If that’s the case then there’s no way to stop crazy folks from having guns until they kill a school full of kids, you know cause there recreationally crazy until their not?

    I am just wondering is there an actual stopping point and if so what should it be on alcohol or weed or meth or crazyness that someone should not have guns?

    Personally I think everyone should carry open all the time as a deterrent and let the chips fall as they may but sometimes I wonder if I am wrong.

    So is there a point or time or reason to make a person no longer eligible to have or carry a gun?

    I wonder about this now and more and more

    Everyone has the right of self defense. If you do something to hurt someone else and or deprive them of their property, then you should be held accountable. People are influenced by perscription drugs, alchohol, lack of sleep, even just plain old stupidity. All can lead lead to an accident in a car, walking out into traffic, or a myriad of other potentially dangerous events.

    I will not make a claim on another person's rights because they took a substance (cough syrup) that said to not operate heavy machinery and they were seen driving a car.
     

    teratos

    My hair is amazing
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    Patriot Picket
    Jan 22, 2009
    59,751
    Bel Air
    I know someone that owns a medical marijuana dispensary. He openly advertises that he has a Dr that can write scripts for people, he even states that people that don't want their primary care Dr knowing about it can come and see his Dr. I'm not sure what criteria the Dr uses to determine whether a medical marijuana card is appropriate but I suspect as long as their check clears and they have a pulse, they will be good to go.

    There are also a lot of doctors who aren't willing to get certified to give MJ cards because it is still federally illegal. I have a DEA permit to dispense and prescribe, that is federally administered. My DEA permit does NOT cover schedule 1 drugs. If I lose my DEA, I can no longer prescribe. No thanks.
     

    44man

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 19, 2013
    10,119
    southern md
    Everyone has the right of self defense. If you do something to hurt someone else and or deprive them of their property, then you should be held accountable. People are influenced by perscription drugs, alchohol, lack of sleep, even just plain old stupidity. All can lead lead to an accident in a car, walking out into traffic, or a myriad of other potentially dangerous events.

    I will not make a claim on another person's rights because they took a substance (cough syrup) that said to not operate heavy machinery and they were seen driving a car.

    Here’s a question I have been thinking about pretty hard

    I have some properties and a couple of them have lost LARGE amounts of value due to weed smokers and other dopers moving into the area. Since the weed smokers and other dopers have hurt me very badly am I not directly hurt by weed smokers and the other dopers? Have they not directly taken money from me? I find it no different than had they robbed me at gun point. I have also had to lower my rent on these places to get renters to move in and lower my standards for renters I allow in.

    Who is hurt in this situation? Surely not the poor ole weed smokers just trying to get over whatever ailments they have to get their weed to cure.

    How will I be reimbursed?

    Like others here say, I don’t care what they do as long as it’s not hurting me, but it is.

    So how do I get well from this situation?

    Get a weed card, smoke up until I don’t care about mine and my families money and future like the rest of the dopers?

    I wonder
     

    KJackson

    Ultimate Member
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    Apr 3, 2017
    8,592
    Carroll County
    I know someone that owns a medical marijuana dispensary. He openly advertises that he has a Dr that can write scripts for people, he even states that people that don't want their primary care Dr knowing about it can come and see his Dr. I'm not sure what criteria the Dr uses to determine whether a medical marijuana card is appropriate but I suspect as long as their check clears and they have a pulse, they will be good to go.

    I have a feeling that getting a medical card will soon be like getting Viagra over the internet. Just answer a few questions during your online "Dr. appointment" and your card or Viagra or whatever the item du jour is will be on its way.
     

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