10/22 cycling .22lr quiets unsuppressed

ponypeddler87 · Jan 31, 2018

I'm sure someone has done it. If there is a thread could someone bump it to the top please. I'm looking for a mod list on what would be needed to make my 10/22 reliably cycle cci .22lr quiets. This gun will be a dedicated quiet shooter.

timkz · Jan 31, 2018

ponypeddler87 said:
I'm sure someone has done it. If there is a thread could someone bump it to the top please. I'm looking for a mod list on what would be needed to make my 10/22 reliably cycle cci .22lr quiets. This gun will be a dedicated quiet shooter.

You will need to put a lighter spring on the guide rod. Kidd sells a kit that includes a lighter spring and a polished guide rod. Note: you will need to purchase a bolt handle to use with the included guide rod.

https://www.kiddinnovativedesign.com/KIDD-Guide-Rod-Spring-Kit_p_46.html

John from MD · Jan 31, 2018

You can cut coils from a recoil spring assembly or you can buy a 22 short bolt from Volquartsen or even lighten a spare ebay bolt. You will loose more velocity by having it cycle so don't try killing anything.
I usually keep the bolt closed with my support hand when I am out cleaning up pests.

ponypeddler87 · Jan 31, 2018

John from MD said:
You can cut coils from a recoil spring assembly or you can buy a 22 short bolt from Volquartsen or even lighten a spare ebay bolt. You will loose more velocity by having it cycle so don't try killing anything.
I usually keep the bolt closed with my support hand when I am out cleaning up pests.

Not even squirrels or ground hogs at 25 yards? I have segmented HP quiets also.

John from MD · Jan 31, 2018

You are only getting @700 FPS with a closed bolt. At 25 yards, they may bounce off their heads.

I use them for pest birds inside of 25 yards. Squirrels I only shoot inside of 15 yards out the window. I don't want to wound anything and have it suffer in the woods.

rob · Jan 31, 2018

Dang, I saw cycling and 22lr quiets in the title and I thought it was going to be a thread about getting rid if bike riders before the even knew what was happening.

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John from MD · Jan 31, 2018

rob said:
Dang, I saw cycling and 22lr quiets in the title and I thought it was going to be a thread about getting rid if bike riders before the even knew what was happening.

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Even though I am a bike rider, I found this funny and I don't approve of the 3 feet rule especially on rural single lane roads. :sad20:

Melnic · Jan 31, 2018

My son and I have shot squirrels with 22 quiets on a suppressed 10/22. The bolt clang ads noise and I would have been better off locking the bolt down somehow or threading a bolt gun. CCI subsonic works and cycles but is louder. I'll be monitoring this thread to see if there is something easy. I can say this, Squirrels are immortal to a CCI quiet unless you get a head shot. They don't die right quickly, even when shot through a lung. I switched to CCI subsonic and its quiet enough w/ the suppressor. Now that deer season is over, I'm taking out the squirrels to feed my dogs.

John from MD · Jan 31, 2018

The best rifle/ammo combination I have used for squirrels is a Remington 510 (with 26 inch barrel) and Aquilla 40gn Sub Sonic. Yes there is a little report but the 26 inch barrel burns nearly all the powder and keeps it low. It also gives you a little more range.

My Benjamin Marauder pistol shooting 18.2 gn Barracuda Hunter pellets at 900FPS (highly modified platform), kills squirrels faster than the 40 grain CCI Quiet out of a 16 inch Ruger 10/22 inside of 35 yards.

ponypeddler87 · Jan 31, 2018

I normally killed squirrels with a 10/22 and some quiets. Most times it would blow through them and take all their insides and out them outside the body.

blankford · Jan 31, 2018

I'm glad I saw this thread. I have the set of 3 KIDD springs and I think I'm running the red spring and was having issues in my 10/22 last time out with subsonics. Going to the "no color" spring for 10% reduction from standard and hopefully will have better luck.

John from MD · Jan 31, 2018

Try it, you never know.

timkz · Jan 31, 2018

blankford said:
I'm glad I saw this thread. I have the set of 3 KIDD springs and I think I'm running the red spring and was having issues in my 10/22 last time out with subsonics. Going to the "no color" spring for 10% reduction from standard and hopefully will have better luck.

I believe the no color spring is the same as OEM. Red is heavier and white is for subsonic.

blankford · Jan 31, 2018

timkz said:
I believe the no color spring is the same as OEM. Red is heavier and white is for subsonic.

I was going nuts trying to remember but went to their website;
"white spring=standard, red spring =10% increase, no color=10% decrease"

lazarus · Feb 1, 2018

John from MD said:
You are only getting @700 FPS with a closed bolt. At 25 yards, they may bounce off their heads.

I use them for pest birds inside of 25 yards. Squirrels I only shoot inside of 15 yards out the window. I don't want to wound anything and have it suffer in the woods.

Yeah, better off with body shots. Only takes about 300fps to penetrate skin for something like a 22lr. 20, 25 yards should punch through a squirrel, but a skull, yeah it might bounce off it.

Segmented might be where it is at. Could be good for coons at chicken coop ranges. Henry golden boy FTW for them.

Muleskinner · Mar 15, 2018

My Hatsan .22 PCP air rifle is internally suppressed and shoots an 18 grn pellet at just over 900FPS and kills squirrels deader than a nail..60dB report which is about as loud as human talks normally. I wouldn't want to shoot one with anything less than about 800FPS. I've tried to kill them with Eley and Anguilla subsonics and it's just not very humane..I have a Ruger internally suppressed barrel on order for my 10/22 take down but with current wait times I won't see it until October...Going to give that a try while deer hunting next year. The Hatsan works well but it's a huge rifle and it's too much work to carry it along with my crossbow into the woods. https://hatsanusa.com/collections/pneumatics/products/bt65sb-qe

JJM82 · Mar 15, 2018

I think I paid about $145 for mine through dvor.com.

Is it worth it? Meh. But I don't let anyone tell me how to waste my money. I've got that covered all on my own.

https://volquartsen.com/inventory_configurations/1083

John from MD · Mar 15, 2018

Great American ingenuity! If I was still shooting mine a lot, I would buy one too.

j_h_smith · Mar 15, 2018

I was never able to get my 10/22 cycle with the quiets. I changed springs, cut off other spring, reshaped the bolt. Used a mill to take material off of the bolt to make it lighter. Nothing worked 100%.

That is until I bought the Firefly bolt. Now it cycles the Quiets like they were meant to be. The only thing to remember, do not use this bolt with ammo having a rating faster than 1000 fps. It's a lightweight aluminum bolt that is hardened somehow. Works great with the Quiets, but please don't use anything other than subsonic ammo slower than 1000 fps.

John from MD · Mar 15, 2018

I suspect it will get peened to hell and back if you feed it a couple of boxes of Mini Mags. :eek:

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