Maryland Is A Gun Owner’s Paradise....

Biggfoot44 · Jan 20, 2019

The NJSP Uniforms :

Date back to 1921 , were influenced by the US Army Cavalry uniforms of the era . In the Northeast US , LE agencies , particularly troopers , tend twords "traditional" styled uniforms .

NJSP uses Dress Uniforms as everyday uniforms .

BeoBill · Jan 20, 2019

Stoveman said:
Just about every time I've been in NJ gas has been cheaper than in MD. Even with the lackeys who get paid to pump it.

That's because the refinery is next door. Sometimes literally.

I have a very good friend who lives in Paramus. He wants to come down here to shoot. He tells me that an 03 FFL is not honored in NJ.

"New Jersey is a police state." - Him

Engine4 · Jan 20, 2019

The tall guy in the video sounds German. Appropriate.

ComeGet · Jan 20, 2019

Stoveman said:
Those Jersey cops have got nothing on these two from Philly.

They show up about 24 seconds into the video.

Not sure that's the best example of "jackbooted thugs." In fact, it looked like a pretty good LEO-gun owner encounter.

He was polite and they took time to educate him on why they stopped him and what his infraction was. If they wanted to, they probably could have arrested him right off for open carry. However, they let him know that in the city it has to be concealed (from what I understand from the video) and let him go on his way once he covered his handgun.

BS law to be sure, but this interaction was not bad. I bet Philando Castile would agree.

Sorry for the derail. Back to Jersey Shore.

Biggfoot44 · Jan 20, 2019

There ARE differences between Phila and the rest of the state . But , if what is taking place is what I think is , that isn't one of them .

Actual difference = Rest of Penna , OC when not in vehicle is generally legal with no Permit. Philadelphia , OC not legal unless having Permit .

If the Citizen had a LTCF ( or remaining one recognized by Pa ) , he would be legal to OC . If he didn't have Permit, concealed would be equally illegal .

Even when Legal Phila PD is aggressively Anti- OC . Loosing multiple civil suits in this regards , has had only marginally changed Phila PD's practices .

Stoveman · Jan 20, 2019

I was talking more about the way they were dressed but they also "misrepresented " PA law in regards to OC.

Threatening to disarm or arrest Joe Citizen illegally by flashing a piece of BS paper is textbook "jack booted thug" behavior in my book.

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Makanik · Jan 20, 2019

I lived in NJ for 43 years till I got fed up with the taxes. Living there I felt every time I touched a gun I was committing a crime. I could not imagine living there now. I know Maryland is not the best reading and listening to people that have lived here for a long time, but it is Paradise to a Ex Jersian.

ComeGet · Jan 20, 2019

Stoveman said:
I was talking more about the way they were dressed but they also "misrepresented " PA law in regards to OC.

Threatening to disarm or arrest Joe Citizen illegally by flashing a piece of BS paper is textbook "jack booted thug" behavior in my book.

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OK. I'm with you. I was assuming they were right about OC in Phil, especially since the guy seemed to acquiesce. The red armbands are quite fascistonable, though.

Stoveman · Jan 20, 2019

ComeGet said:
OK. I'm with you. I was assuming they were right about OC in Phil, especially since the guy seemed to acquiesce. The red armbands are quite fascistonable, though.

I'm not sure why the guy gave in so quick other than the fact that he would rather go about his business than own their asses in court. He was definitely correct in his interpretation of the law.

The interwebz are full of videos of these types of encounters in Philly. Apparently there was a ruling a couple of years ago that the police could not ask for an LTCF if the sole reason for doing so was that someone was open carrying a firearm. This and the boatload of judgments against the city where they have paid out big $$ still does not seem to deter the local gendarmes from harassing those who open carry.

Rack&Roll · Jan 21, 2019

If I recall correctly, the preceding video was the annual Mummer’s Parade, which would explain the red armbands, which are worn by “officials” who are managing the event.

As for the “severe” uniforms of the NJSP, the tradition is obviously stronger than the unfortunate stance created by the uniforms and hats that resemble what famous German war criminals wear.

I think the tradition is so strong because it dates from the high visibility that the NJSP garnered when they took over the Lindbergh Baby Kidnapping. The NJSP was run by Herbert N. Schwartzkopf, the father of the famous General Norman H. Schwartzkopf. Schwartzkopf Senior drilled military rituals into his NJSP recruits and the traditions never waned.

lemmdus · Jan 23, 2019

John from MD said:
I can't believe they are still wearing Sam Browne rigs in this day and age.

Well one thing about the SS ezatgruppen, they loved their traditions and uniforms.

fxk · Jan 23, 2019

Nice "little" piece of paper to throw down when someone talks about "common sense gun laws" and "how easy to procure guns".
Should keep 'em quiet for a minute or two... Well worth the $59 IMNTBHO.

BeoBill · Jan 23, 2019

Stoveman said:
I'm not sure why the guy gave in so quick other than the fact that he would rather go about his business than own their asses in court. He was definitely correct in his interpretation of the law.

The interwebz are full of videos of these types of encounters in Philly. Apparently there was a ruling a couple of years ago that the police could not ask for an LTCF if the sole reason for doing so was that someone was open carrying a firearm. This and the boatload of judgments against the city where they have paid out big $$ still does not seem to deter the local gendarmes from harassing those who open carry.

It's not like it's THEIR money going into the judgments or anything...

LRoberts · Jan 24, 2019

safecracker said:
....compared to New Jersey. I slept with the lights on last night. This 500+ page book is more horrifying than a Stephen King novel. Firearms ownership in NJ is best compared to entering a minefield. And the Nazi-esque uniforms speak volumes about the NJSP approach to enforcement.

Great pic of the Gestapo.
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MrDK · Jan 24, 2019

wow, and i thought Maryland was bad

Biggfoot44 · Jan 24, 2019

The only reassuring thing we can say to ourselves is " Thank God , we're Not New Jersey " .

Other Anti states can have mixed results in comparison . I have had people tell me with a straight face that Mass and NY State are better than Md , and from their context they were correct . But NJ is unalloyed suck, with no redeeming qualities .

Docster · Jan 24, 2019

John from MD said:
I agree. We can become like them in one session.

And I think we soon will.

BeoBill · Jan 27, 2019

Docster said:
And I think we soon will.

Hate to say it, but I agree. Bloomberg cash (and related purchased influence) at the state level, and Pelosi/Schumer at the national level. We shall be thoroughly screwed.

Tod · Jan 27, 2019

I too am from Jersey and have experienced the firearms ID card and a pistol purchasing permit for each handgun bought. The Jersey assault weapons ban and I even remember having to sign a log book for buying ammo that could be used in a pistol. After moving here I thought all that was behind me... slowly but surely our state government is eroding all that I had gained moving here. As soon as I can retire I will once again move to where the grass is greener.
I must say Jersey has great Diners, Pizza, Bakeries, Bagels and bread...

BeoBill · Jan 28, 2019

Why not fight while you are here, Tod? Do you WANT MD to become NJ II?

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