VA HB67 - Termination of Public Safety Employees

jbrown50 · Dec 13, 2019

newmuzzleloader said:
I don't know how Virginia hires law enforcement but it seems to me only STATE troopers would be subject to this and, if like Md, each county hires it's own deputies who serve under an elected sheriff. Stupider and Stupider. This should be interesting.
Looks like efad is on the reread list

Virginia is always short on troopers and had to hire another 200 just this year to help make up a severe shortage. I'm sure that threatening to fire them over such a stupid law as HB67 would go a long way towards worsening their already weak retention numbers.

Allen65 · Dec 13, 2019

newmuzzleloader said:
I don't know how Virginia hires law enforcement but it seems to me only STATE troopers would be subject to this and, if like Md, each county hires it's own deputies who serve under an elected sheriff. Stupider and Stupider. This should be interesting.
Looks like efad is on the reread list

The bill reads: "of the Commonwealth, or of any county, city, town or other political subdivision thereof, or of any agency of any one of them, "
so it doesn't just apply to State Troopers. The only LE who might be exempt are the elected Sheriffs themselves. They're elected officials, not employees.

teratos · Dec 13, 2019

They are going all-out to alienate everyone.

3paul10 · Dec 13, 2019

Oh my God that's scary shit!

Norton · Dec 13, 2019

teratos said:
They are going all-out to alienate everyone.

Good - let's get this over with. If Virginia LEOs can't see that they are nakedly being used as political pawns then they are looking very hard. They need to have their unions pushing back like crazy on this.

jtb81100 · Dec 13, 2019

And these idiots are worried that 2a sanctuary counties are a flash point? Wtf is wrong with them?

Alea Jacta Est · Dec 13, 2019

Can y’all hear that in the background???

I believe it’s the Battle Hymn of the Republic. Playing in the Commonwealth no less.

Allen65 · Dec 13, 2019

The really funny part is the threat to use the National Guard. Can someone remind these idiot legislators and VAAG that the President can nationalize the NG and remove them from command of the VA Governor? And said WH occupant is eager to prove his 2A cred to his base with an election coming up?

Similar events happened before, during the Civil Rights Struggle. Self defense is a civil right, after all.

Mark75H · Dec 13, 2019

Nnztg8r said:
Can y’all hear that in the background???

I believe it’s the Battle Hymn of the Republic. Playing in the Commonwealth no less.

LOL

-Z/28- · Dec 13, 2019

Perhaps all the officers who protect the state legislators and governor should have a blue flu day. See how the cowards like being without protection.

Doobie · Dec 13, 2019

-Z/28- said:
Perhaps all the officers who protect the state legislators and governor should have a blue flu day. See how the cowards like being without protection.

Too bad officers in Maryland didn’t do something like that. I hate to say it, but Marylanders should look at Virginians in awe...they’re doing what Marylanders wouldn’t do and probably never would.

namrelio · Dec 13, 2019

It would be nice to know who is behind all this. We all have our guesses, but it would be nice to know for sure. How many, and who they are.

Allen65 · Dec 13, 2019

namrelio said:
It would be nice to know who is behind all this. We all have our guesses, but it would be nice to know for sure. How many, and who they are.

Are you talking about the Good Guys, or the Dem leadership? The Dem leadership may discover there are a significant number of Dem legislators from more rural districts that won't vote with them in the end in spite of all the bluster. They do have to live in tjeir districts when the legislature is out of session.

Norton · Dec 13, 2019

-Z/28- said:
Perhaps all the officers who protect the state legislators and governor should have a blue flu day. See how the cowards like being without protection.

This. These petty tyrants need to be reminded how fragile their perceived power is and that it only exists at the will of those being governed.

Any leader worth his salt knows that the further "up" you go in the leadership world, the more vulnerable you are and the more reliant you are on those that you lead.

These fvckers need a stern reminder.

psucobra96 · Dec 13, 2019

Virginia going full King George style, guess Lexington might soon share significance with Leesburg. God bless our brothers and sisters in Good old Virginia fighting for our rights.

Tyrants have shown their faces gentlemen.

namrelio · Dec 13, 2019

Allen65 said:
Are you talking about the Good Guys, or the Dem leadership? The Dem leadership may discover there are a significant number of Dem legislators from more rural districts that won't vote with them in the end in spite of all the bluster. They do have to live in tjeir districts when the legislature is out of session.

I think there are some way above the dem leadership.

Allen65 · Dec 13, 2019

Hopefully after these bills are defeated, VA Republican voters will have a frank discussion with the Repub Leadership about how many Dems ran and won in uncontested contests this year, and why that is unacceptable.

1841DNG · Dec 13, 2019

Does this specify state laws only because I am sure there are some local government officials wanting their local police to ignore immigration law.....

AssMan · Dec 13, 2019

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present HB67's Patron - Del. Lee Carter.

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Carter was inspired to run for office after receiving a shock while repairing a lighting system in the summer of 2015 and subsequently struggling to receive worker's compensation from Virginia while unable to work. Before choosing to run, he had long identified as "to the left of where the Democratic party [is]" but was further inspired by Bernie Sanders to explore democratic socialism.[5]

Carter ran for the Virginia House of Delegates for the 50th district. He was endorsed by the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), of which he is a member.[5] His campaign mostly focused on issues such as single-payer healthcare and financial contributions to politicians. Jackson Miller, the incumbent Republican, distributed a mailer campaign that compared Carter to Communist rulers Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong,[5][6][7] an act the Democratic Party of Virginia condemned as fearmongering.[7] Miller called Carter an "anti-jobs candidate" and said his "ideas are so out of the mainstream, and so incredibly expensive."[8] On November 7, 2017, Carter won the race by nine percentage points.[9] He was one of 15 DSA members elected in 2017.[10]

Carter has been married and divorced three times. He has a daughter with his second wife.[24] According to Carter, his third wife physically and emotionally abused him, which resulted in police involvement and an emergency protective order. He has also alluded to being abused and raped earlier in his life.[2] In October 2018, to get ahead of any potential attempts at "personal smears",[24] Carter admitted making "homophobic, trans-phobic, sometimes sexist or racially insensitive" comments online as a teenager.[24]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_J._Carter

Jake4U · Dec 13, 2019

That they even think this way is some pretty scary shit.

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