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Old February 10th, 2019, 07:35 PM #81
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The gerrymandering doesn't really impact the small-scale local elections that populate the state legislature. It, does, though, impact the way the state's federal congressional delegation is put together. But that's not what we're facing here.
It certainly does! I'm over in District 12 and while my area is very conservative, mostly blue collar/working class folks - Lansdowne/Arbutus, they drew the lines to include large chunks of upper middle-class liberal Catonsville and Columbia. Just look at our delegates and state senator - conservatives and Republicans need not apply because they don't stand a snowball's chance in Hell of getting elected until they redo the lines.
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It certainly does! I'm over in District 12 and while my area is very conservative, mostly blue collar/working class folks - Lansdowne/Arbutus, they drew the lines to include large chunks of upper middle-class liberal Catonsville and Columbia. Just look at our delegates and state senator - conservatives and Republicans need not apply because they don't stand a snowball's chance in Hell of getting elected until they redo the lines.



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Old February 10th, 2019, 09:18 PM #83
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Not enough votes to vote them out in their districts, if that was the case we would have already done that. In MD, Democrats outnumber Republicans 2-1, that is major advantage in sheer registered voters.Baltimore city alone sends 18 delegates. There's a reason why Democrats hold supermajorities in both chambers, get real man, you offer lost ideas.
I already have a clue about the voting statistics of this state so what would you suggest, quit and go hide in another state?
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Old February 10th, 2019, 09:44 PM #84
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Next election stack the (D) by running multiple candidates from MDS? Whose names on the ballot come before the incumbents + Operation DINO? Look at Ocasio-Cortex.

Just tossin' out ideas since demographics are against us.

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Old February 11th, 2019, 12:54 AM #85
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I'm late to this discussion but when I read the MSI post on FB, the civil disobedience hypothetical resonated with me. Not suggesting that the current approaches (e.g. testifying in Annapolis etc) be abandoned but I believe our only hope of stopping the impending doom is to adopt a different tactic. Clogging the highways by obeying the posted speed limit could be quite an attention-getter. Sure it would piss off many but it may also cause others, previously unaware of the thread by which their liberty hangs, to get involved.
You must have missed the news article about the woman driving 55 in the right lane, the speed limit, on Route 7 towards Tyson's about 20 or so years ago. She got a ticket from a Va State Trooper for impeding the flow of traffic.
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Old February 11th, 2019, 02:14 AM #86
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I think this is lost on a lot of people, on this site, simply because it is a generational thing. I don't think many over the age of 40 understand how effective YouTube and social media can be. Unfortunately, the companies know how effective it is and they stifle conservative communication.

A youthful injection into the 2A community is sorely needed as are voices from minorities and women. However, they need a backstop to fight the reprisal from their respective college/university. Too many stories of admin punishing kids for what they do on their own time.

The NRA has failed in their communication and outreach. I've been lambasted before for saying this but the fact is no one is listening to us old fat bearded white guys in cammo. We need diversity bad. Imagine a bunch of college / HS kids in business casual marching on Annapolis. It would turn heads. The status-quo needs to change. We need your help.


Let me talk to some my friends. This is one of those things I need to think about. At some point Iíd like to get my butt in gear and up to Annapolis. Thatís first.


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I think this is lost on a lot of people, on this site, simply because it is a generational thing. I don't think many over the age of 40 understand how effective YouTube and social media can be. Unfortunately, the companies know how effective it is and they stifle conservative communication.

A youthful injection into the 2A community is sorely needed as are voices from minorities and women. However, they need a backstop to fight the reprisal from their respective college/university. Too many stories of admin punishing kids for what they do on their own time.

The NRA has failed in their communication and outreach. I've been lambasted before for saying this but the fact is no one is listening to us old fat bearded white guys in cammo. We need diversity bad. Imagine a bunch of college / HS kids in business casual marching on Annapolis. It would turn heads. The status-quo needs to change. We need your help.

Kids have made their families Millionaires and full time businesses with "unboxing videos" Toy manufacturers inundate these kid youtubers with gratis toys to unbox and comment on in youtube videos.

As far as I see it, anyone over 50 pushing gun rights is seen as irrelevant. Double that if white. Makes me grin when I've seen cute girls in their 20's feign interest in the old farts gunz message on the street. The Hogg et al not even at 20yo yet will be running the show two decades out. It's their call, and I hope to be on a beach rather than Valhalla.

Fabs has a poll on how people vote. Looks as if near no one votes Democrat. People then wonder why 5000 at Annapolis does't work. Very very few of the rabble voted for the people making the laws. It's the money and votes that matter.
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Kids have made their families Millionaires and full time businesses with "unboxing videos" Toy manufacturers inundate these kid youtubers with gratis toys to unbox and comment on in youtube videos.

As far as I see it, anyone over 50 pushing gun rights is seen as irrelevant. Double that if white. Makes me grin when I've seen cute girls in their 20's feign interest in the old farts gunz message on the street. The Hogg et al not even at 20yo yet will be running the show two decades out. It's their call, and I hope to be on a beach rather than Valhalla.

Fabs has a poll on how people vote. Looks as if near no one votes Democrat. People then wonder why 5000 at Annapolis does't work. Very very few of the rabble voted for the people making the laws. It's the money and votes that matter.


We keep trying the same old thing, over and over again, expecting a different result.
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My 22yo with non-resident Permit would disagree with that . She makes some PP events, but alas is at work during the Hearings .
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We keep trying the same old thing, over and over again, expecting a different result.
That was my point. The data suggest that we need to apply more force. 5,000 of us testifying/protesting in Annapolis didn't work last time and therefore unless something has fundamentally changed there's no reason to think it will work this time.

Now, 50,000 showing up may be a sufficient force to make a difference. Anyone here think we can get 50,000? When I signed the MSI petition this morning I was number 1400. For a petition.

If we can't get 50,000 there may be other ways to exert an equivalent force with fewer numbers, e.g. the example of clogging the roadways. A group of 5,000 driving the speed limit on 95 would be noticed in a big way. Probably at the national level.

All of the ideas suggested here are good and worth exploring for the long term. The immediate threat to our rights, however, is an extremely short term threat. We have weeks, not years.
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