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Old May 17th, 2018, 05:19 PM #2051
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We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.
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Amen, overthrow as in vote them out! fred55
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Old May 19th, 2018, 04:45 AM #2052
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If DemocRATs and Hogan want to know why we are so upset about the Red Flag law....here you go.

LATimes.com - May 17, 2018
Reuben Foster's ex-girlfriend testifies she lied about domestic violence after he ended relationship

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The former girlfriend of Reuben Foster testified at a preliminary hearing Thursday that she lied to police when she said the San Francisco 49ers linebacker attacked her, allegations that led to a domestic violence case against him.

Elissa Ennis testified she lied because she wanted retribution after Foster tried to end their relationship, saying she was angry "and I wanted to end him." When asked by prosecutor Kevin Smith if Foster ever hit her, Ennis replied, "No, sir. Not once."
But how many would-be jilted girlfriends or vindictive ex-wives would confess later ... let alone the amount of personal, legal and civil rights hardships a defendent would endure BEFORE being vindicated ... if ever ?

Due Process is ONLY effective if rigorously applied at the outset. There is NO after-the-fact application.
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If DemocRATs and Hogan want to know why we are so upset about the Red Flag law....here you go.

LATimes.com - May 17, 2018
Reuben Foster's ex-girlfriend testifies she lied about domestic violence after he ended relationship

But how many would-be jilted girlfriends or vindictive ex-wives would confess later ... let alone the amount of personal, legal and civil rights hardships a defendent would endure BEFORE being vindicated ... if ever ?

Due Process is ONLY effective if rigorously applied at the outset. There is NO after-the-fact application.
Senator: "I fail to see how one can correlate unethical behavior in California to the fine State of Maryland. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a campaign meeting to attend."

Tangent - Mr. Foster needs to find a better hair stylist.
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Love that quote! We need Lincoln now more than ever.
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I still can't forget Hogan's unwillingness to support Trump. He would rather risk our future on Hillary?

Combine that with his unwillingness to veto the Red Flag bill to reassure the 2A, Constitution abiding Marylanders he sees what's wrong. He is nothing more than the rest of the swamp.

In it only for himself. The hell with everyone else. IMHO
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Thanks for posting the final version. I see that the MGA only put the knife 3/4 of the way into our back before twisting it.
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If DemocRATs and Hogan want to know why we are so upset about the Red Flag law....here you go.

LATimes.com - May 17, 2018
Reuben Foster's ex-girlfriend testifies she lied about domestic violence after he ended relationship



But how many would-be jilted girlfriends or vindictive ex-wives would confess later ... let alone the amount of personal, legal and civil rights hardships a defendent would endure BEFORE being vindicated ... if ever ?

Due Process is ONLY effective if rigorously applied at the outset. There is NO after-the-fact application.
Slim to none I'd guess.
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This is scary enough that I will not be, as a new member, posting any details of my firearms on the forum. It used to be if you are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide. Not so in Maryland.
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If DemocRATs and Hogan want to know why we are so upset about the Red Flag law....here you go.

LATimes.com - May 17, 2018
Reuben Foster's ex-girlfriend testifies she lied about domestic violence after he ended relationship



But how many would-be jilted girlfriends or vindictive ex-wives would confess later ... let alone the amount of personal, legal and civil rights hardships a defendent would endure BEFORE being vindicated ... if ever ?

Due Process is ONLY effective if rigorously applied at the outset. There is NO after-the-fact application.
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Slim to none I'd guess.

I'm trying to understand more about what due process really means in this issue.

I found this fairly long read but helps a lot in background of "due Process" and Property rights that that Madison, Blackstone and Locke.
https://www.hillsdale.edu/educationa...rican-history/

So, with a respondent and ERPO and a judge orders seizure of firearms, how do I petition the court or judge to claim due process is being denied?
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Thanks for posting the final version. I see that the MGA only put the knife 3/4 of the way into our back before twisting it.
...for now...
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