Need help Identifying a Remington Rolling Block

Dieselfool · Jul 2, 2021

I suppose this is a good place to check, I was recently given a Remington rolling block and a very limited history behind it. Apparently my grandfather purchased it around 1963 in Laredo Texas while he was serving or just after, in the Airforce. Its been sitting in a corner in my grandmothers bedroom since the beginning of time. She thought it was time to pass it on.

I don't know anything about it other than the details listed below.

24" Barrel to breech, 39.5" OAL

Width of reciever at breech is close to 1.156"

Caliber unknown

Top tang reads:
"E. REMINGTON & SONS. ILION NY USA
PAT MAY 3D 1864. MAY 7TH. JUNE 11TH. NOV 12TH. DEC 24TH 1872. DEC 31ST 1972. SEPT 8TH 1873 JAN 12TH. MARCH 18TH 1874" (ALL IN 3 LINES)

Top and bottom tang on left side under stock read "23416"

And there appears to be 2 lines on breech end of barrel and 1 line in reciever (possible alignment marks?)

There are no other markings or stamps (that can be seen) anywhere else on this thing.

Anyone know how I can possibly identify date of manufacture, and caliber?

Threeband · Jul 2, 2021

Rolling Blocks were made in just about every caliber imaginable.
You might need to order some Cerrosafe from Brownells and make a chamber cast.
Can you get an idea of the caliber? Closer to .45 or .28?

Speedfreak · Jul 2, 2021

Threeband is correct, Remington made that rifle before and after the Civil War, in many calibers and configurations. They sold those all over the world and they even licensed them in other countries. I think that is a Model No. 1 or maybe 1 1/2 but I'm no expert.

I bought parts on rollingblockparts.com a few years back and they should have plenty of information to help you narrow it down. Great family heirloom!

Dieselfool · Jul 2, 2021

Threeband said:
Rolling Blocks were made in just about every caliber imaginable.
You might need to order some Cerrosafe from Brownells and make a chamber cast.
Can you get an idea of the caliber? Closer to .45 or .28?

I tried a 45-70 casing, it was too large in diameter, and seemed a bit long as well. ( it would have to be tipped in not slid stright in. Due to hitting the block)

Speedfreak said:
Threeband is correct, Remington made that rifle before and after the Civil War, in many calibers and configurations. They sold those all over the world and they even licensed them in other countries. I think that is a Model No. 1 or maybe 1 1/2 but I'm no expert.

I bought parts on rollingblockparts.com a few years back and they should have plenty of information to help you narrow it down. Great family heirloom!

Thank you, ill take a peek and see if that'll help.

Threeband · Jul 2, 2021

The Rolling Block was so common it was casually referred to as the Remington, and everyone knew what was meant.

They were sold to militaries around the world in many chamberings, from New York to Scandinavia to Egypt to Latin America.

They were chambered in black powder cartridges like 45-70 and .43 Egyptian and later were sold in smokeless chamberings like 7mm Mauser and 8mm Lebel.

Biggfoot44 · Jul 2, 2021

If it's centerfire , and big bore but slightly smaller than .45-70 , and available in large numbers as surplus in mid 1960's , the probability is either .43 Egyptian or .43 Spanish . Both are available from Buffalo Arms as compents and possibly loaded ammo .

Threeband · Jul 2, 2021

Get some cerrosafe

https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-.../cerrosafe-chamber-casting-alloy-prod384.aspx

and make a chamber cast. Measure with a caliper and compare to cartridge dimensions from reloading sources.

For instance, https://loaddata.com/Cartridge/43-Spanish-1115x58R-Lee-Precision-Data/6272

Jerry M · Jul 2, 2021

∆ This.

Way too many possibilities to guess.

jr355 · Jul 2, 2021

Here is a link to parts and info. Owner is a right guy. http://www.rollingblockparts.com/

Doco Overboard · Jul 2, 2021

Its got a Redfield front sight band on it.
Blade heights can be easily changed on those.

Threeband · Jul 2, 2021

I think Bubba was shooting buffalo with it.

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