Archeryrob
Undecided on a great many things
I have a 30 year old 870 magnum and I'd put it up against any pump shotgun ever made. That said, I would not pay for any gun they made in the past 15 years, or more. The SPR-453 was pretty good but that was just an OEM for them and not made by them. I never like the O ring on the 1187's and they cut engineering a long time ago in favor of profits and they only lasts a few years.