How long is the MSP Licensing handgun PIN valid?

I received a PIN from MSP licensing a few months back for a planned handgun purchase that I never made. Would it still be valid or should I just go on-line and submit a new application?

Assuming you're referring to the online 77R process? Those pending requests seem to be viable indefinitely. I've used one that was almost a year old.

Occam said:

Assuming you're referring to the online 77R process? Those pending requests seem to be viable indefinitely. I've used one that was almost a year old.

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Thanks.

The PIN (personal identification number) is issued to an individual who has a name, DOB, address, or other identification marker which is shared by, or common to, prohibited individuals. The PIN is issued after a background investigation clears a person as “Not Prohibited”. The purpose being that the person to whom the PIN is issued can then use that PIN in future firearms transactions. Thereby reducing the likelihood of being denied the purchase.

Example:

John Doe- male- 01/28/1990... has a long record of criminal convictions.
He once lived at 122 Any Place, Balto. Md.
He is prohibited

Jon Dough- male- 01/26/1990... is your average law abiding citizen. No criminal history.
He lives at 122 Any Street, Balto. Md.
He is NOT prohibited.

Yet every time Jon Dough tries to purchase a firearm... he is initially denied and processing is delayed pending review... due to the similarities between the ID facts on record for he and John Doe.

So Jon Dough applies for and is issued a MSP PIN which becomes his unique identifier for all future firearms transactions in the state of Maryland. Using that PIN speeds up the background check on the state level.

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Protect that PIN and don’t share it with anyone who does not “need to know”. It tells the MSP Investigator that the person using it... has already been investigated and, at that time, found to be “not prohibited/not disapproved”.

I thought he was referring to the pin that comes with every MSP application. I thought it was a new PIN for every application, but I never looked at my old emails and compared the numbers.

Edit- On further review they are always different for each application

Tungsten said:

I thought he was referring to the pin that comes with every MSP application. I thought it was a new PIN for every application, but I never looked at my old emails and compared the numbers.

Edit- On further review they are always different for each application

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Yes...every completed 77R generates an "application number" (beginning with the year it was submitted), and within that application number is the 4 number PIN that the ffl uses to complete their part once the item is in their location.

Tungsten said:

I thought he was referring to the pin that comes with every MSP application. I thought it was a new PIN for every application, but I never looked at my old emails and compared the numbers.

Edit- On further review they are always different for each application

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Inspector1489 said:

Yes...every completed 77R generates an "application number" (beginning with the year it was submitted), and within that application number is the 4 number PIN that the ffl uses to complete their part once the item is in their location.

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Application number is not a PIN.

A PIN is a unique number which the MSP assigns to the individual. It is used as I said... to help the individual get through the background investigation easier when there are questions about similar ID markers between them and other people who are or may be prohibited.

RoadDawg said:

Application number is not a PIN.

A PIN is a unique number which the MSP assigns to the individual. It is used as I said... to help the individual get through the background investigation easier when there are questions about similar ID markers between them and other people who are or may be prohibited.

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A 77R submission generates both a unique application number and a unique pin for the specific application.

RoadDawg said:

Application number is not a PIN.

A PIN is a unique number which the MSP assigns to the individual. It is used as I said... to help the individual get through the background investigation easier when there are questions about similar ID markers between them and other people who are or may be prohibited.

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Perhaps a clarification is needed from the OP on what he meant by PIN. Not sure we are discussing the same thing here RD.

My comment refers to both the application number assigned to a 77r and the PIN that is unique to that application number. That is how I (and I believe Tungsten and RRG) understood the OP's question.

Yes. It sounds to me like RD is referring to "UPIN" (Unique Personal Identification Number), used for NICS checks as he illustrated in post 4. I suspect the OP is referring to the "PIN" half of the Application number and PIN, used in the new electronic 77r...which is completely different. Honestly, I don't quite understand why there is an App# and PIN. In my experience, I have never needed one without the other, and, honestly, it might as well just have been a longer App#. Maybe they are used separately if there are any hiccups in the process (which, thank goodness, I haven't experienced yet).

When the system first went electronic, I'm pretty sure I remember the App and PIN "sets" were supposed to expire after 6 months. I can confirm from both personal experience and conversations with my LGS that they do not. In fact, last time we had discussed it, he said that he had never had one rejected due to expiration.

I say try it Worst case scenario, you just have to make a new one. I always keep one or two on a post-it note on the back of my HQL just in case I stumble across a deal I can't refuse.