O3 , need some help

rj1974 · Apr 7, 2012

Ok picked up another 03 yesterday for cheap and Im a lil stumped on the markings . It is a 1906 receiver and what I thought was a 1909 barrel but after cleaning some crud I found a 1 to add ten years to the barrel . The receiver is blued Im wondering if it was reheat treated to harden it at some point as it has a later barrel in it and these stamps on the bottom of the receiver . There is a 33 stamped on top of the stock Im assuming a rack number . Some stamps in the cutoff cut out and a B next to the Springfield eagle head . A 7 in front of the magazine . What looks to be a flaming bomb near the circle P . And a B and RI under the bolt handle . There is also a small S on the inside of the trigger guard and on the trigger . The top one is the new one the bottom is my 1926 .

It cleaned up great all the crud is now gone . bore looks good and action is nice and smooth . I need a sight hood though .

Thanks for any help
Ray

Indiana Jones · Apr 7, 2012

I wish I could help you. Those are so nice. I need to get one really bad.

BlackBart · Apr 7, 2012

Way cool! What do you consider "way cheap"??? I just gots to know!!! :cool:

VTX1800 · Apr 7, 2012

Springfield Armory “33” Theories

There were exactly 33 steps from the gunsmiths office to the assembly line floor.

The reservoir that was used by the foundry for its main steel source was fed by 33 bellows

The list of parts on the schematic sheet– – totals 33 letters (not counting the commas or the apostrophe).

The armory workers were members of the Local #33 union.

The highest level that can be attained by a Freemason is 33rd degree (maybe the Springfield workers were Freemasons?).

Legend has it that the Springfield Armory was started with money won at the horse track. The winning bet was placed on #33, "Old Springfield," and that is why there is a horse and the "33" on the stock.

It was the 33rd version of the rifle that became what is now the Model 1903. This one may have come about because of the Jack Daniels label. It states "Old Number 7" on the label in reference to the 7th attempt at its recipe.

:lol2:

Dave91 · Apr 7, 2012

I believe the B denotes a rebuild. It also has the old style top hand guard which is cool. I've never heard of receivers being re-heat treated though. Can you post some more pictures? The top picture makes it look like it may have the "straight" bolt as opposed to the swept back bolt handle that is clear on your 1926 rifle.

rj1974 · Apr 7, 2012

Dave91 said:
I believe the B denotes a rebuild. It also has the old style top hand guard which is cool. I've never heard of receivers being re-heat treated though. Can you post some more pictures? The top picture makes it look like it may have the "straight" bolt as opposed to the swept back bolt handle that is clear on your 1926 rifle.

It does have the earlier straight bolt handle , Ill get it back out and put some pictures up of it cleaned up . It looks like everything is pre WWI it just has some odd markings on it ive never seen and cant find online or in any of my books .

Dave91 · Apr 8, 2012

rj1974 said:
It does have the earlier straight bolt handle , Ill get it back out and put some pictures up of it cleaned up . It looks like everything is pre WWI it just has some odd markings on it ive never seen and cant find online or in any of my books .

It sounds like it was rebuilt in 1919 (based on the barrel date) right after the war which is why it has all WW1 era parts. Very cool rifle you have there.

Threeband · Apr 8, 2012

Just be aware, it's not just the low number receiver that's an issue. The CMP advises against using the early straight handle bolts also.

Of course some people use full power loads in low number receivers, and some use reduced loads. Others collect them as non-shooters.

rj1974 · Apr 8, 2012

Threeband said:
Just be aware, it's not just the low number receiver that's an issue. The CMP advises against using the early straight handle bolts also.

Of course some people use full power loads in low number receivers, and some use reduced loads. Others collect them as non-shooters.

Im aware of that as well :thumbsup:

rj1974 · Apr 8, 2012

a few more pics after a lil cleaning

BlackBart · Apr 8, 2012

It's looking better and better all the time...... you don't want to say what you paid? Is there anymore where that came from?

rj1974 · Apr 8, 2012

BlackBart said:
It's looking better and better all the time...... you don't want to say what you paid? Is there anymore where that came from?

PM sent .

BlackBart · Apr 8, 2012

rj1974 said:
PM sent .

Wished I could buy one like yous for only 20 dollars too!

redrumtc · Apr 10, 2012

P. Stand s for process

The RI stamp is the mark of a WWI-era RIA stock and the 3GM-K is a WWII rebuild/inspection mark of unknown origin.

I would highly recommend C.S. Ferris' book, "Rock Island Rifle Model 1903". It has a large section on these RIA/SA "original" mixmasters.

rj1974 · Apr 11, 2012

redrumtc said:
P. Stand s for process

The RI stamp is the mark of a WWI-era RIA stock and the 3GM-K is a WWII rebuild/inspection mark of unknown origin.

I would highly recommend C.S. Ferris' book, "Rock Island Rifle Model 1903". It has a large section on these RIA/SA "original" mixmasters.

Thanks Red Ill check out those books . :thumbsup:

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