Beretta 1951 bulged barrel?

budman93 · Jan 11, 2015

Abulg1972 said:
Gunbroker is not the only place to find a handgun. Many great guns can be purchased from SOG, Aim, J&G, Classic and other, frequently ignored, auction sites.

I know but none of the major sites that I've looked at have anything that I really want right now. Not that I wouldn't like to have a p64 or a tokarev, I just want to get something more comfortable to shoot than a p64 and with more readily available ammo than the 7.62x25.

budman93 · Jan 11, 2015

The add stated that this gun had a "very good bore." Would any of you call that a good bore, even without the bulge? The rifling is worn nearly smooth in places and there is evidence of pitting throughout. I wouldn't even call it fair condition.

somd_mustangs · Jan 11, 2015

Nope. That's not a very good bore.

Abulg1972 · Jan 11, 2015

What's wrong with a Star B? :innocent:

budman93 · Jan 11, 2015

Abulg1972 said:
What's wrong with a Star B? :innocent:

Nothing I guess. Are people still getting decent ones from J&G? I don't know of anywhere else that has them right now. I really wanted to get a revolver but I haven't been able to find one yet and the Beretta was a good price.

toolness1 · Jan 12, 2015

Century still has excellent condition Star Bs, they are park'd, at least the one I got is. It is in great shape, shoots well with steel cased ammo. Doesn't like brass too much.

Boom Boom · Jan 12, 2015

budman93 said:
The add stated that this gun had a "very good bore." Would any of you call that a good bore, even without the bulge? The rifling is worn nearly smooth in places and there is evidence of pitting throughout. I wouldn't even call it fair condition.

Your first bore photo tells the story. Somebody scoured it to clean out a lot of rust. What's left of rifling is almost smooth and the pitting looks pervasive throughout.

It's why I'm hesitant with most sellers on GB (and AA). Descriptions can range from generous to absurdly generous. Be wary when photos are dark or somewhat blurry (in both cases to mask detail). Another red flag is lack of photos, in this case no bore photo.

Boom Boom · Jan 12, 2015

budman93 said:
Nothing I guess. Are people still getting decent ones from J&G? I don't know of anywhere else that has them right now. I really wanted to get a revolver but I haven't been able to find one yet and the Beretta was a good price.

A specific revolver (or manufacturer)? Price range? At $250, you're almost stuck with a Nagant. At $400, there are many options, including Colt and S&W.

budman93 · Jan 12, 2015

Boom Boom said:
A specific revolver (or manufacturer)? Price range? At $250, you're almost stuck with a Nagant. At $400, there are many options, including Colt and S&W.

I'd go up to 400 and I was looking at a Smith model 10, I just haven't found one yet.

Alphabrew · Jan 12, 2015

Just put some duct tape on it, should be fine :innocent0

They didn't even look at that bore when they said it was good.

budman93 · Jan 12, 2015

Alphabrew said:
Just put some duct tape on it, should be fine

They didn't even look at that bore when they said it was good.

Sure looks that way.

budman93 · Jan 12, 2015

I just got an email from Gary Cole. He apologized several times for the mistake.

bbrown · Jan 12, 2015

budman93 said:
I just got an email from Gary Cole. He apologized several times for the mistake.

IMHO, Gary Cole has a stellar reputation among C&R collectors.

Machodoc · Jan 12, 2015

budman93 said:
I just got an email from Gary Cole. He apologized several times for the mistake.

bbrown said:
IMHO, Gary Cole has a stellar reputation among C&R collectors.

Yeah ... I think he's a good guy, but they're a small company and apparently got crushed in the December sales rush.

budman93 · Jan 12, 2015

Just talked to their office. Return shipping is on me. :mad54:

So UPS or FEDEX?

Its probably going to cost me like fifty bucks isn't it?

Edit: They have told me now that they WILL reimburse me for return shipping.
So I have to do UPS or FEDEX overnight and notify them that it is a pistol when I ship it right?
And since you have to be a dealer or collector according to their terms I should be the one to take it to be shipped?

Boom Boom · Jan 12, 2015

budman93 said:
I'd go up to 400 and I was looking at a Smith model 10, I just haven't found one yet.

If you don't mind police surplus, keep on eye on what Lou gets in. $400 or less should get you a very nice one.

Boom Boom · Jan 12, 2015

budman93 said:
Edit: They have told me now that they WILL reimburse me for return shipping.
So I have to do UPS or FEDEX overnight and notify them that it is a pistol when I ship it right?
And since you have to be a dealer or collector according to their terms I should be the one to take it to be shipped?

Yes, notify person at depot counter that it contains a handgun. Bring a copy of your C&R with you just in case. Don't go to a UPS Store. If you're near Frederick, bring it to the UPS depot on English Muffin Way. Use whatever shipping method they require.

budman93 · Jan 12, 2015

Boom Boom said:
If you don't mind police surplus, keep on eye on what Lou gets in. $400 or less should get you a very nice one.

Wouldn't most of those not be C&R though? I don't have the HQL yet.

Boom Boom said:
Yes, notify person at depot counter that it contains a handgun. Bring a copy of your C&R with you just in case. Don't go to a UPS Store. If you're near Frederick, bring it to the UPS depot on English Muffin Way. Use whatever shipping method they require.

Yeah that's the one I'll go to, I live about five minutes from there.

Boom Boom · Jan 13, 2015

budman93 said:
Wouldn't most of those not be C&R though? I don't have the HQL yet.

Good point. I assumed you had it. Lou gets nice C&R revolvers pretty often. I imagine a C&R model 10 at his shop wouldn't hang around for long.

-Z/28- · Jan 13, 2015

Boom Boom said:
Good point. I assumed you had it. Lou gets nice C&R revolvers pretty often. I imagine a C&R model 10 at his shop wouldn't hang around for long.

He did have some Star Bs in there about a month ago.

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