Remington ammo is garbage

Cochise · Jul 20, 2019

Hi All,
I bought a flat of Remington Game Loads (cheap target/dove ammo) from Cabela's on sale.
When I got it I assumed UPS or Cabela's had packed or abused it in shipping. There was loose shot everywhere and some of the boxes had opened.
I called Cabela's and they sent me 3 more boxes to make up for what was messed up (as a guess on the amount).
The 3 new boxes had the same issues.
At that point I contacted Remington through their website (no response)
What I have are 13 boxes of shells that look like the hulls were never skived, the crimps are opening, are dished, or have holes in the middle.
I have never seen factory ammo this bad in the 30 or so years I have been shooting.
I assume it is safe as worst case there is less or no shot so pressures will be less not more but my god....
Last Remington product I will buy and I own a lot of their products, guns and ammo both.
It's the I don't give a shit part that bothers me from Remington, Cabela's has tried to do the right thing, as it turns out it wasn't their problem, it was non existent quality control from Remington

Red1917 · Jul 20, 2019

I picked up a case of Remington gun clubs not too long ago and the few boxes I used this week had a few loose pellets at the bottom too, never seen it before either. Once I noticed I checked some crimps and they looked ok, they all cycled in my gun fine but definitely concerning

Bob A · Jul 20, 2019

Remington has been effing up a lot over the last few years. Small wonder they filed for bankruptcy. Only Rem product I own is a Model 51 pistol from the 1920s.

Pity they lost touch with their roots. Upstate NY and New England were the heart and soul of US firearms production until the Progressives took over. Never never elect a POTUS from Princeton.

jimbobborg · Jul 20, 2019

Some of the duck hunters I've talked to mentioned blowing up guns because the wad from the previous shot hadn't left the barrel. I'd only use those shells in a break action shotgun, just so I could check without having to take the shotgun apart. YMMV.

Uncle Duke · Jul 20, 2019

Damn!
I'd have never guessed this. Its a shame to see a once great company sinking this low.

gtodave · Jul 23, 2019

I had a few boxes with loose shot in them too, also Cabela's sale box. My trap buddy had 3 dead rounds in a half a box of ammo. Good primer strike, but no fire. I tried them in my gun too just to be sure, and nothing.

Mine didn't look smashed or anything, but I'm guessing I might need to break in to my backup rounds one trap night soon.

Gambler · Jul 23, 2019

Every time I have ammo trouble it ends up being a box of Remington.

duckslayer · Jul 23, 2019

A Great gun company bought buy non gun people and ruined. I think they are actually unloading seconds as sale items

fabsroman · Jul 28, 2019

Be very careful about using that ammo. Sometimes, without enough back pressure from the wad, the powder will not burn completely and you might end up with a wad stuck in the barrel. Not sure if it even makes sense to shoot that ammo versus taking it back to Bass Pro and asking for a refund. Let Bass Pro/Cabela's deal with getting reimbursed from Remington. Such a shame that Remington is coming to this. I like its STS target loads, Nitro-Steel, and Hevi-Shot loads, but I have not had to buy any of them lately.

TheOriginalMexicanBob · Jul 28, 2019

You might do a web search or check Remington's website to see if there's been a recall on ammunition of those types and lot numbers. If there's no recalls then Remington needs to be made aware of such issues. They can't fix what they don't know about...and if they already know and won't do anything that tells a lot about their management and attitudes towards customers and safety.

Posting here might warn members here but it doesn't do anything to help fix the situation. Remington should given a chance to make good.

Uncle Duke · Jul 28, 2019

TheOriginalMexicanBob said:
You might do a web search or check Remington's website to see if there's been a recall on ammunition of those types and lot numbers. If there's no recalls then Remington needs to be made aware of such issues. They can fix what they don't know about...and if they already know and won't do anything that tells a lot about their management and attitudes towards customers and safety.

Posting here might warn members here but it doesn't do anything to help fix the situation. Remington should given a chance to make good.

This for sure. Helps others, helps the manufacturer, and helps you.

Be aware also that ammunition sales tend to be final. I know for a fact that Bass Pro/Cabelas will not accept returns on ammunition. I also know that this policy tends to be pretty much universal.

slsc98 · Jul 28, 2019

I remember other shooters guffawing at me as I stayed behind to go back over entire sporting clays courses (with permission) to pickup all the discarded once-fired factory flat-green-colored Rem 12ga Gun Club hulls I could for reloading and I’d tell ‘em, “Laugh away but, the day IS coming when the bean counters who now control Rem are going to switch over to the much cheaper to manufacture straight-walled Reifenhauser hull design ...”. I still say that day is approaching but, I have easily amassed and climate-controlled stored more hulls (and powder, shot and tapered hull wads) than I can likely reload and shoot in my remaining 25-30 years on this rock. What has befallen America’s Oldest Firearms Mfr is indeed unfortunate and sad ...

Cochise · Jul 29, 2019

I contacted Remington and waited a week to hear back before I posted anything. 3 weeks later I am still waiting to hear back. I have had bad Winchester shells in the past as well, but I can load much better ammo than this for about the same or less money.
I believe Remington wont be in business much longer as a bad product ends up on discussion boards like this and it isn't that big a community - word gets out

pbharvey · Jul 29, 2019

I shot an entire flat of Gun Clubs yesterday with no issues. I have another 10 flats at home that replaced the last 10 flats I shot up. I've never had a single problem.

Cochise · Jul 29, 2019

I finally got a hold of someone at Remington. It looks like they are going to replace my flat of shells. I have a mail ticket to send back the bad flat. Apparently quality control is now laser guided and computerized and this wasn't caught. ..?

El_flasko · Aug 7, 2019

Not to move away from Remington, but I Just ran into the exact same issue but with Winchester AAs when I bought five flats from Cabelas. Definitely like factory issues though and I’m working with both Cabelas and Winchester now.

slsc98 · Aug 7, 2019

FF to 6:00 mark ... its a wonder 20 out of every box of 25 aren’t defective ...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eHtl5jT_ckM

tallen702 · Aug 9, 2019

I run Rem pheasant load almost exclusively when pheasant hunting and have yet to have an issue with them. My gut feeling is that target/dove loads across the board have minimal margins due to the low, low cost per round we wind up paying at most places. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the "sale" ammo that gets out there is of a lesser quality as well.F

That said, I've seen loose shot in flats of Rem, Win, Fed, Rio, you name it. Everywhere you look, that target/club/dove grade stuff is going to be cheaply made and have some issues that aren't caught by un-manned QC lines.

Cochise · Aug 9, 2019

So final follow up, I am more than happy.
Remington sent me a replacement flat of STS shells. They are too pretty to shoot

JB62 · Aug 9, 2019

Have not had issues with their shells but bought a case of subsonic 300blk and junk. I get 1 to 3 duds per box, good primer strikes, only ammo this particular rifle has any trouble with.

Remington ammo is garbage

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