CITIZEN GROUPS UNITE TO CHALLENGE MARYLAND FIREARMS BAN IN THE U.S. DISTRICT COURT

tomh · Sep 27, 2013

TxAggie said:
I think many are missing the subtlety of this particular angle if the suit. This filing is specifically aimed at:
ADA implications if the bill (non standard magazines)
Interstate commerce (banned rifles being a key income source for local FFL's)
And a direct association of "common use" firearms as defined in Heller.

As others have mentioned, this is not the primary 2A suit, that one is sure to follow. Keep your shorts on, I predict within two months you'll need a spreadsheet to follow all of the different filings.

TxAggie, it also had a very interesting slant to it, to use the phrase "In the home" so that it didn't invoke the finer points of Heller also supporting outside the home.

This is clearly a dagger straight-to-the-heart approach on this. No reason to include extraneous info, they'll just use that for diversion tactics.

I especially liked the fact that preference for law enforcement over say retired veterans or "regular" citizens was a violation of equal protection under the 14th.

Take away the exclusions for law enforcement and there will be an uproar from them. They know extended magazines are critical for defense.

TxAggie · Sep 27, 2013

Kharn said:
And equal protection, retired cops are the same as non-LEOs legally, but the law makes them a different class.

Yes, this too. Thanks for catching it.

Mr H · Sep 27, 2013

I enjoyed the pointing out of the hypocrisy and uselessness of the magazine restrictions.

Just hop across the border.....

Robert · Sep 27, 2013

Not a lawyer but after briefly reading the complaint I thought... 'WOW That's going to be tough one' I'm VERY interested in the states response..

Mr H · Sep 27, 2013

OOPS!!! Ummmm, Nancy???

Sen. Jacobs sent this out, but somehow left out AGC!!!

For those of you who have not heard, yesterday, September 26, 2013, Maryland Shall Issue, Inc., The Maryland State Rifle and Pistol Association, the Maryland Licensed Firearms Dealers Association, the National Shooting Sports Foundation, Wink's Sporting Goods, Inc., Matthew Godwin, Andrew Turner and Shawn Tardy filed a suit in U. S. District Court of Maryland seeking injunction to stop the Firearm Safety Law of 2013 from taking effect October 1, 2013.

jaybee · Sep 27, 2013

Bolts Rock said:
All the work and base funding for these suits come from grassroots organizations, people like you and me doing the grunt work and making donations. We do get some matching funds and sometimes some legal help from national organizations but the bulk of the work and money is from plain old everyday people. We need help from our brothers and sisters across America because there are more suits to follow in the coming days and weeks, every single one of the suits could have to be taken as far as SCOTUS and that costs. These cases can set national precedent. To be blunt, we need money in the form of donations to some of our state level groups leading the fight. Any amount will do, even as little as $5, please send us the cost of one box of ammo if you can.

To donate you can go online to the first group and it will go right to the litigation fund. The other two you can send a check or money order and mark in the comment line "Maryland Litigation Fund" and it will go to this and the upcoming lawsuits.

Maryland Shall Issue
https://marylandshallissue.com/joindonate-now/

AGC, make checks payable to AGC and write Litigation Fund in the comment line then mail to:
John H. Josselyn, Legislative Vice President
Associated Gun Clubs of Baltimore, Inc.
Legislative Office
PO Box 20102
Towson, MD 21284-0102

Maryland Licensed Firearms Dealers Association, makes checks payable to MLFDA and write Litigation Fund in the comment line then mail to:
MLFDA c/o:
Shooter's Discount
401 Center St. Ste 101
Mt. Airy, MD 21771

ready to donate..

guess checks are the best since credit cards and paypal take a cut out of the funds

vector03 · Sep 27, 2013

Donation to MSI sent.

F*ck 'em up

Mr H · Sep 27, 2013

jaybee said:
ready to donate..

guess checks are the best since credit cards and paypal take a cut out of the funds

Good point!!

Was going to toss e-money about today, but will do cash/checks instead.

mxrider · Sep 27, 2013

Bolts Rock said:
Posted on FB with the AGC link from the OP in this thread at the bottom. Feel free to repost on your FB, no attribution required.

We have some serious 2A issues here in Maryland and have twice sued the Maryland State Police. The first time in July, the case was put in abeyance as MSP rolled over and agreed to stipulate to the letter of the law. The second time was last week, we filed suit and sought a TRO. The TRO was not granted because MSP rolled over at the last minute, admitted they broke state and Federal law and assured the court they had stopped the practice. That did not prevent the suit from being heard seeking permanent injunctive relief and damages, the decision is due tomorrow. The second suit was for a massive breach of the Personally Identifying Information of 38,000 individuals, this is a well beyond serious issue.

Today the third lawsuit was filed, this time a broad Constitutional suit against the new Maryland gun grab called bill SB281 due to go into effect October 1st. There is a link to the full 34 page complaint in the article below.

All the work and base funding for these suits come from grassroots organizations, people like you and me doing the grunt work and making donations. We do get some matching funds and sometimes some legal help from national organizations but the bulk of the work and money is from plain old everyday people. We need help from our brothers and sisters across America because there are more suits to follow in the coming days and weeks, every single one of the suits could have to be taken as far as SCOTUS and that costs. These cases can set national precedent. To be blunt, we need money in the form of donations to some of our state level groups leading the fight. Any amount will do, even as little as $5, please send us the cost of one box of ammo if you can.

To donate you can go online to the first group and it will go right to the litigation fund. The other two you can send a check or money order and mark in the comment line "Maryland Litigation Fund" and it will go to this and the upcoming lawsuits.

Maryland Shall Issue
https://marylandshallissue.com/joindonate-now/

AGC, make checks payable to AGC and write Litigation Fund in the comment line then mail to:
John H. Josselyn, Legislative Vice President
Associated Gun Clubs of Baltimore, Inc.
Legislative Office
PO Box 20102
Towson, MD 21284-0102

Maryland Licensed Firearms Dealers Association, makes checks payable to MLFDA and write Litigation Fund in the comment line then mail to:
MLFDA c/o:
Shooter's Discount
401 Center St. Ste 101
Mt. Airy, MD 21771

I stole this and posted on my FB page as well. Thank you!

jaybee · Sep 27, 2013

here is the MSI address
Donations may also be mailed to:

Maryland Shall Issue®, Inc.
1332 Cape St. Claire Road #342
Annapolis, MD 21409

Make Checks/Money Orders payable to: Maryland Shall Issue®.

Mr H · Sep 27, 2013

If anyone is in the Burtonsville area tomorrow, feel free to stop by the Burtonsville Day event, and we'll be happy to take your cash or check donations there, as well!

dblas · Sep 27, 2013

freddie said:
So what has our NRA dollars gotten us Marylanders? - nothing that I can see. Even after the president of NRA, who lives in Md, said they would file law suit - right!

MSI is where our dollars should go

Easy big boy, there are still plenty of issues on the table and a lot of stuff hasn't taken affect yet. There will be more coming, just keep your britches on.

dblas · Sep 27, 2013

daggo66 said:
That was a very interesting read. Surprisingly, despite all of the attention on the HQL, there is no mention of it.

HQL isn't law yet, so no way to challenge it as harmful yet.

dblas · Sep 27, 2013

TxAggie said:
The Shooting Sports Foundation is under the direction of the NRA IIRC.

I'm not a legal expert by any means, but just reading the brief I could tell they have two specific complaints in this one brief. 1) the undue hardship the law has on Americans with disabilities
2) the undue hardship this places on Maryland FFL's in relation to those of neighboring states.

Don't bet on this being the only game in town.

Negative ghostrider, the NSSF is their own entity, with it's own board and membership, with no direct input from NRA. Their headquarters is in......wait for it.....Newtown, CT.

JailHouseLiar · Sep 27, 2013

jaybee said:
here is the MSI address
Donations may also be mailed to:

Maryland Shall Issue®, Inc.
1332 Cape St. Claire Road #342
Annapolis, MD 21409

Make Checks/Money Orders payable to: Maryland Shall Issue®.

$200 inbound. Without you, we'd get trampled. Your efforts are appreciated more than words can express.

MJD438 · Sep 27, 2013

Guess I know where the next several tithe checks are going...

mousetom78 · Sep 27, 2013

robertgreen79 · Sep 27, 2013

Strange question but, are any of the attorneys who are working on this in DC?

NavyATFP · Sep 27, 2013

robertgreen79 said:
Strange question but, are any of the attorneys who are working on this in DC?

Page 3 of the case lists the two named attorneys as working for

Bradley Arant Boult Cummings, LLP
1615 L Street, NW Suite 1350
Washington DC 20036

daggo66 · Sep 27, 2013

dblas said:
HQL isn't law yet, so no way to challenge it as harmful yet.

Neither is anything else in the current suit.

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