CITIZEN GROUPS UNITE TO CHALLENGE MARYLAND FIREARMS BAN IN THE U.S. DISTRICT COURT

Mr H · Sep 27, 2013

Shamr0ck said:
I'm hopeful that the HQL case is waiting in the wings and will be filed once SB281 goes into effect. I imagine there are several cases which are headed to the courts.

Shamr0ck

Note that this case makes 2A less the focus than 14A... Yes, they're both critical, but this is a bit of a sidestep, and I like the direction it points.

HQL is both, as well, but should be more heavily toward 2A. This, IMO, is where NRA (and maybe even GOA???) will hit hard. I don't know it for fact, but it's out there.

Inigoes · Sep 27, 2013

Hopalong said:
Notice that this suit focuses on the "assault long guns" and "high capacity magazines". There's nothing on the HQL in there.

Given that the sworn testimony in by sown of the folks from the MSP is all but perfect to challenge the HQL on constitutional grounds, I'd say that this is just the opening salvo.

This is pure speculation. I have no particular insight.

I was thinking the same thing. One bite at a time

occbrian · Sep 27, 2013

A little food for thought.

NRA is a four letter word in MD.
NRA is not a NAMED plaintiff in THIS suit.
Several members of various gun groups continue to INSIST that the NRA is helping them and VERY involved.
Does NRA "need" to be a named plaintiff to help? Think about this...

You guys are seeing the face of the lawsuit and not the guts. This may be intentional. Do you know for a fact that they aren't helping?

The NRA is very methodical in their actions. We all know that Shannon Alford has been deeply involved. Maybe we should all listen to the whispers that NRA is helping in ways you don't see in the filed complaints.

Just my $.02.

Do not bash the NRA. This is a strategic, long term game and we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

I will be upgrading to life member and donating to the NRA-ILA, if that tells you anything.

EL1227 · Sep 27, 2013

Bikebreath said:
EPIC!

(Need MSI, MDS or AGC to get this on facebook for "liking", linking and sharing).

It's on FoxNews.com this AM ...

Gun-rights activists sue Maryland to block new firearms law

You can 'Link and Like' from there.

MSI should have their postings up on FB shortly.

occbrian · Sep 27, 2013

Btw. If you donate to the ILA, you can write in the memo line... MD LITIGATION and it will only be used to support MD litigation.

Brooklyn · Sep 27, 2013

occbrian said:
A little food for thought.

NRA is a four letter word in MD.
NRA is not a NAMED plaintiff in THIS suit.
Several members of various gun groups continue to INSIST that the NRA is helping them and VERY involved.
Does NRA "need" to be a named plaintiff to help? Think about this...

You guys are seeing the face of the lawsuit and not the guts. This may be intentional. Do you know for a fact that they aren't helping?

The NRA is very methodical in their actions. We all know that Shannon Alford has been deeply involved. Maybe we should all listen to the whispers that NRA is helping in ways you don't see in the filed complaints.

Just my $.02.

Do not bash the NRA. This is a strategic, long term game and we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

I will be upgrading to life member and donating to the NRA-ILA, if that tells you anything.

The time we spend squabbling could be put to better us, in any case.

If you insist on squabbling you should know that you will be ignored as my time has more value...

It is also the case that we need to know that we can count on your support . It past time to know if you are in this fight unconditionally -- if so thanks, if not please do not impede our objectives...

Mr H · Sep 27, 2013

occbrian said:
Btw. If you donate to the ILA, you can write in the memo line... MD LITIGATION and it will only be used to support MD litigation.

Beat me to it.

There is a very focused effort underway, folks.

Just because you don't see it when you want to see it, doesn't mean it isn't out there.

CrazySanMan · Sep 27, 2013

occbrian said:
A little food for thought.

NRA is not a NAMED plaintiff in THIS suit.
Several members of various gun groups continue to INSIST that the NRA is helping them and VERY involved.
Does NRA "need" to be a named plaintiff to help? Think about this...

Here is a quote from the Fox News article about the lawsuit:

A spokeswoman for the National Rifle Association told The Baltimore Sun lawyers for the plaintiffs plan to ask a judge Friday for an injunction to prevent the law from taking effect.

Riddle me this, Batman, if the NRA isn't involved in the lawsuit, how would they know this???

Inigoes · Sep 27, 2013

CrazySanMan said:
Here is a quote from the Fox News article about the lawsuit:

Riddle me this, Batman, if the NRA isn't involved in the lawsuit, how would they know this???

It's called communication. It's a good thing for our side to speak as one

Hopalong · Sep 27, 2013

mr h said:
Just because you don't see it when you want to see it, doesn't mean it isn't out there.

Just like the air we breathe.

HarCo2ANewb · Sep 27, 2013

Chess /= checkers

teratos · Sep 27, 2013

CrazySanMan said:
Riddle me this, Batman, if the NRA isn't involved in the lawsuit, how would they know this???

Inigoes said:
It's called communication. It's a good thing for our side to speak as one

People only need to pay attention to what is going on here. It has been said numerous times that the groups (MSI, AGC, NRA, MSRPA et al) are communicating and in "lock-step" to use Patrick's words. Having been privy to a lot of the behind-the-scenes stuff, I can tell you that is most certainly the case.

occbrian · Sep 27, 2013

teratos said:
People only need to pay attention to what is going on here. It has been said numerous times that the groups (MSI, AGC, NRA, MSRPA et al) are communicating and in "lock-step" to use Patrick's words. Having been privy to a lot of the behind-the-scenes stuff, I can tell you that is most certainly the case.

I second.

XCheckR · Sep 27, 2013

I read the suit, there was nothing in there regarding the cost of the license, and the undue burdon for range/training/etc on individual. Will this be addressed in future suites (post Oct 1)

occbrian · Sep 27, 2013

XCheckR said:
I read the suit, there was nothing in there regarding the cost of the license, and the undue burdon for range/training/etc on individual. Will this be addressed in future suites (post Oct 1)

2 different issues. I think it is safe to assume that HQL will be challenged separately.

Mr H · Sep 27, 2013

occbrian said:
I second.

All in favor???

Benanov · Sep 27, 2013

XCheckR said:
I read the suit, there was nothing in there regarding the cost of the license, and the undue burdon for range/training/etc on individual. Will this be addressed in future suites (post Oct 1)

You don't need training to buy long guns. This is the long gun suit.

The handgun suit is coming. You can have a number of lawsuits in play over different topics.

Benanov · Sep 27, 2013

mr h said:
Note that this case makes 2A less the focus than 14A... Yes, they're both critical, but this is a bit of a sidestep, and I like the direction it points.

The 14A is a bit maligned these days, especially by political conservatives (and it makes them look like idiots when they do it, IMNSHO). To make liberals to defend their law against it is a very nice touch.

cad68m_m · Sep 27, 2013

Just wrote a check to AGC, I hope to see some other interesting lawsuits after 10/1

TopShelf · Sep 27, 2013

ShallNotInfringe said:
Note the pseudo factual statement asserting that the AR-15 was the gun used in the Newtown shooting...

Nauseating to watch the repeater.

Ahhh, did notice that and skimmed right on past it. I recall there being a question on that gun actually being what was used, and initial reports not mentioning it....hate to derail the thread here, but point taken

Note to self - finish coffee before posting hahaha

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