Deer hunting with 300 blk out
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danb
dont be a dumbass
I think that your sarcasm detector is malfunctioning.
When you have a skill, you must practice with it lest it rusts...Just piling on.....
Thanks both for not descending into an "I'm offended!" bitch fest.
It was pretty darned funny. #nothinskinforthewin
If I correctly remember past discussions of MD muzzle energy requirements for deer hunting, it's that they were in part "formulated" to regulate 357 Magnum firearm use, especially as there was a period of time when commercial 357 Magnum loadings were decreasing in speed (and thus momentum/energy), to ensure that they largely couldn't be used. This had to be based on very limited empirical data and anecdotal observations vs a formal study understanding the effects of bullet caliber, bullet weight, bullet construction, and bullet speed in taking down a putative monster buck at handgun and rifle distances.
Obviously, for those that don't load their own, there are several commercial options that put one above the minimal energy range using 357 Magnum (with which I suspect there are more handgun vs rifle hunters). They also likely didn't anticipate advances in hunting round technology, such as 300 BLK, which may be more effective than some types of rounds even at comparable energies. Similar to the point that was being made with muzzle loaders upthread, energy is not the end all in predicting effectiveness in dropping a deer.
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Obviously, for those that don't load their own, there are several commercial options that put one above the minimal energy range using 357 Magnum (with which I suspect there are more handgun vs rifle hunters). They also likely didn't anticipate advances in hunting round technology, such as 300 BLK, which may be more effective than some types of rounds even at comparable energies. Similar to the point that was being made with muzzle loaders upthread, energy is not the end all in predicting effectiveness in dropping a deer.
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"Similar to the point that was being made with muzzle loaders upthread, energy is not the end all in predicting effectiveness in dropping a deer."
True considering I had no problem doing it in back in the '70's for PA primitive with a .440 ball shot out of a .45 Kentucky rifle at 75 yards. Placement, Placement, Placement.
True considering I had no problem doing it in back in the '70's for PA primitive with a .440 ball shot out of a .45 Kentucky rifle at 75 yards. Placement, Placement, Placement.
danb
dont be a dumbass
And then there is bow hunting. Archery equipment has energy around 90-120 ft lbs. Broadheads have downed plenty of deer.
fabsroman
Ultimate Member
What the hell happens if you handload for the .300 BLK? Guess you need to carry a copy of the page from the reloading manual to show the game warden the muzzle energy of the load.
Hunting, shooting, and owning/using firearms in this state can give a person a serious headache.
Hunting, shooting, and owning/using firearms in this state can give a person a serious headache.
Shot a big doe at around 125 yards with Hornady's 110gr ZMax. Dropped in its tracks and got up after 30 seconds or so and went maybe 20 yards and piled up. Bullet completely exited. Another was shot at a much farther distance...in the head. It was definitely a luck shot
- Jul 29, 2014
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This is my standard argument for the superimposed muzzle energy restrictions. We can use a stick and string, but god save you if your gun doesn't exert 700 Ft/Lbs at the muzzle. Ridiculous.
melikou1
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Don't forget that you can now take a deer legally in MD with an air rifle. Must be minimum of .40 caliber and generate at least 400 ft-lbs. muzzle. You can argue the bow/arrow piece since the projectile is vastly different than a bullet/pellet. Sorry....shouldn't stoke the fire.
Park ranger
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Chronographing your ammo and pulling your bullets to weigh them are not going to happen. No way . If a ballistic chart shows the cartridge is capable of producing 1200 foot pounds your good to go, especially something like the blackout that develop around 1400 ft pounds in a rifle.
Now if you are hunting with something exotic, say a 357 maximum, you may have to show I'm using Underwood loaded ammo, not xyz brand.
If your hunting with a 38 special and claiming your pushing a 125 grain bullet @ 1600 fps, to get 710 ft pounds, you better have a good poker face.
Now if you are hunting with something exotic, say a 357 maximum, you may have to show I'm using Underwood loaded ammo, not xyz brand.
If your hunting with a 38 special and claiming your pushing a 125 grain bullet @ 1600 fps, to get 710 ft pounds, you better have a good poker face.
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