HPRB Under Attack: Hearings 3/12

danb · Mar 18, 2019

Sun is reporting that the committee advanced this bill 10-5:

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-handgun-board-vote-20190318-story.html

The Maryland Senate is advancing a bill that would abolish the state’s Handgun Permit Review Board, which some critics say is too permissive in overturning denials of permits to carry handguns.

A key committee on Monday night approved the bill, the first step before the measure can become law.

The Executive Nominations Committee voted 10-5 to approve the bill. The Judicial Proceedings Committee also must approve the bill before it goes to the full Senate for consideration.

not up on MGA website yet.

Sun is not reporting whether it was approved with any amendments.

Abacab · Mar 18, 2019

danb said:
Sun is reporting that the committee advanced this bill 10-5:

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-handgun-board-vote-20190318-story.html

not up on MGA website yet.

Sun is not reporting whether it was approved with any amendments.

They waited until the last possible moment. I wonder if that was reluctance on the committee members part. Either way, they have made this bill a priority and probably put the screws to them.

This is a bill I could see getting vetoed.

danb · Mar 18, 2019

Abacab said:
They waited until the last possible moment. I wonder if that was reluctance on the committee members part. Either way, they have made this bill a priority and probably put the screws to them.

This is a bill I could see getting vetoed.

Mmmmm, did they make crossover? It has to go to another committee before getting to the floor (per the Sun anyway), so I dont think so.

PJDiesel · Mar 19, 2019

Abacab said:
They waited until the last possible moment. I wonder if that was reluctance on the committee members part. Either way, they have made this bill a priority and probably put the screws to them.

This is a bill I could see getting vetoed.

Ha!

Made me giggle a little first thing in the morning!

Lawn Chair Larry isn't going to do shit, never was,.....never will.

Vetted84 · Mar 19, 2019

PJDiesel said:
Ha!

Made me giggle a little first thing in the morning!

Lawn Chair Larry isn't going to do shit, never was,.....never will.

You never know. As soon as he talked about running against President Trump in 2020 I figured he was suffering from early onset dementia. Who knows what he is going to sign/veto?

MJD438 · Mar 19, 2019

danb said:
Mmmmm, did they make crossover? It has to go to another committee before getting to the floor (per the Sun anyway), so I dont think so.

No, both committees must vote on it and report their votes to the Senate. The only thing we have heard is that the bill was voted favorable in the Executive Nominations Committee, but has not been voted on in Judicial Proceedings. The ExecNoms report did not make it to the floor before they adjourned last night (I listened specifically for the report and the legislative tracker on the MGA site does not show it reported).

Malleovic · Mar 19, 2019

MJD438 said:
The ExecNoms report did not make it to the floor before they adjourned last night (I listened specifically for the report and the legislative tracker on the MGA site does not show it reported).

Does this mean it would need to go to Rules before being referred onwards in the opposite chamber (since it's now late/after crossfile day)?

MJD438 · Mar 19, 2019

Malleovic said:
Does this mean it would need to go to Rules before being referred onwards in the opposite chamber (since it's now late/after crossfile day)?

Correct.

danb · Mar 19, 2019

If this bill is amended, it needs to be amended so that MSP allows self defense.

pbharvey said:
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There should be little doubt that you are your own first, second, and third responder in Baltimore.

Otherwise, MD legislature is simply playing with themselves here with this bill. Supreme Court took NYSRP vs NYC on carrying and transporting firearms.

I honestly don't have a problem with not arresting people who are carrying firearms. Constitutional Carry for everyone, not just the criminals.

BeoBill · Mar 19, 2019

danb said:
If this bill is amended, it needs to be amended so that MSP allows self defense.

There should be little doubt that you are your own first, second, and third responder in Baltimore.

Otherwise, MD legislature is simply playing with themselves here with this bill. Supreme Court took NYSRP vs NYC on carrying and transporting firearms.

I honestly don't have a problem with not arresting people who are carrying firearms. Constitutional Carry for everyone, not just the criminals.

Very well put, IMO. The bolded has the makings of a good slogan.

buellsfurn · Mar 19, 2019

PJDiesel said:
Ha!

Made me giggle a little first thing in the morning!

Lawn Chair Larry isn't going to do shit, never was,.....never will.

I'm not so sure PJ these are Hogans people he believed in this process once upon a time :fingerscrossed:

PowPow · Mar 20, 2019

The SB1000 favorable out of judicary is now posted.

Here is the vote 6-5

PowPow · Mar 20, 2019

The amendments are posted as well, making it an emergency bill that takes effect immediately.

PJDiesel · Mar 20, 2019

Guess I shouldn't ask Stevi again if she knows when my hearing is coming up......

KevinK · Mar 20, 2019

PowPow said:
The amendments are posted as well, making it an emergency bill that takes effect immediately.

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2019RS/amds/bil_0000/sb1000_24322302.pdf

“SECTION 2. AND BE IT FURTHER ENACTED, That this Act is an emergency
measure, is necessary for the immediate preservation of the public health or safety, has
been passed by a yea and nay vote supported by three-fifths of all the members elected
to each of the two Houses of the General Assembly, and shall take effect from the date
it is enacted.”.

danb · Mar 20, 2019

Perhaps this will make a great basis for a lawsuit that will be argued in front of a hostile 4th circuit now filled with Trump appointees.

I am always very reluctant to interrupt my enemies when they are making a huge mistake in my favor.

HPRB is going to die, not the way they think.

jc1240 · Mar 20, 2019

Really? An emergency because of public safety?

How many permit holders have hurt someone? What a joke. Sadly, we're the punchline.

Abacab · Mar 20, 2019

danb said:
Perhaps this will make a great basis for a lawsuit that will be argued in front of a hostile 4th circuit now filled with Trump appointees.

I am always very reluctant to interrupt my enemies when they are making a huge mistake in my favor.

HPRB is going to die, not the way they think.

It's still dominated by the opposition, not Trump appointees

PJDiesel · Mar 20, 2019

jc1240 said:
Really? An emergency because of public safety?

How many permit holders have hurt someone? What a joke. Sadly, we're the punchline.

None that we've heard of.

Off duty MSP?..... that's another story though.

East2West · Mar 20, 2019

PJDiesel said:
None that we've heard of.

Off duty MSP?..... that's another story though.

Wheeeeew boy, you just punted the hornets nest

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