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Old January 11th, 2018, 11:27 PM #1
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When is an SBR not an SBR?

When the ATF says so!

An announcement from Franklin Armory.

Trying to decide if this is fake or how they did it.

An sbr
Designed to be fired from shoulder
1. Less than 16"
Or
2. Less than 26" overall

Okay. My prediction.
1. They took a mission first tactical stock that weighs 6 oz and convince the ATF that it's a stabilizing blade by putting a strap around it

2. 1 rd per Trigger pull = rifle. This fires once when pulled and once when released. Therefore doesn't meet definition of rifle

Could they play off this definition to move it Into firearm catagory?



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Old January 11th, 2018, 11:38 PM #2
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Selector looks like it has 3 settings?
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Old January 12th, 2018, 04:45 AM #3
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Selector looks like it has 3 settings?
that's probably their binary trigger system..

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The question is does it shoot traditional ammo?
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Barrel pinned and welded to the receiver..making the receiver essentially part of the barrel creating 16".....maybe? 40% Confused 60% Excited, trying not to get my hopes up about this. If it is true, it would be awesome if it is priced reasonably.
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That is a real head scratcher. Can't possibly see how the gun in the picture doesn't require a stamp. I'm guessing some fine print like...

*when sold with suppressor/flash hider permanently attached or when sold with brace instead of stock.
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Old January 12th, 2018, 05:32 AM #7
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I've also heard possible proprietary barrel rifling which the ATF may see as smooth bore / non-rifled barrel?
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Smooth bore is an interesting idea. What would shot placement look like firing 5.56 out of a 11.5 smooth bore "pipe" at say 25 or 50 yards?

(I already searched for a .223/5.56 barrel with smooth bore to test it myself but cannot find any )
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Full disclosure: this is hear say from FB but further reading says smooth bore is confirmed as not the route they went.
A bolt action can be an SBR so that makes me think the Not-semi auto and Not-full auto route might be a fail as well.?? I am leaning toward marketing stunt and hope their Shot Show booth is right next to ATFs booth!

Lots of interesting ideas though.
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Is it just me or does that stock look undersized? Maybe it can't be shouldered "effectively". If it can be said about a Sig brace, then why not?

Or there's an x300 in the receiver and it just "lights up" a room when you pull the trigger.
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