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Old January 10th, 2018, 09:46 PM #51
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If you want to talk single stage "hair trigger" AR triggers, you'll want to look at JP Ent. FCGs. You can set them as close to double tap as one can be set. It's made for three gun. I actually put one in my 20" bench AR. I left just enough follow through to avoid DTs. As the trigger broke in, I ended up with a RCH of creep. I blame that on my 1970's EA lower. Still a sweet trigger.
JP makes good stuff, for single stage - the SD-3G with the light spring has been plenty for me (when you're lighting off a .50Beo, a silly light trigger may not be "ideal"...), if you relax your firing grip, no need for a bump-stock.

For stupid light 2-stage, the Hi-Speed National Match series - can dial the 2nd stage down to as little as 6oz, total weight down to 1.9# - that's a light trigger by almost anyone's measure.

Plenty of great options, by a number of sources.
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Old January 11th, 2018, 10:59 AM #52
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To each their own. But what's defined as a 'hair-trigger' is quite subjective.

The SSA is quoted at a 4.5# total pull weight (1st being 2.5#, 2nd being 2#), may sound light, but in use - it isn't. The SSA-E is quoted at 3.5# (1st being 2.3#, 2nd being 1.2#) - again it sounds light, but it isn't. In my entire time of owning/firing the SSA-E, never had an issue with the function of the trigger, or sending a round downrange I didn't mean to.

Big question is, do you want a 2-stage trigger, or a single stage?
I prefer a 2 stage. I got used to them in my RRA rifle.

Any idea what the pull on those are? or do they vary?
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I have a JP single stage in one of my AR’s. Adjustable for engagement, overtravel and with springs, weight of pull. I like it, its a keeper.
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I prefer a 2 stage. I got used to them in my RRA rifle.

Any idea what the pull on those are? or do they vary?
W/out looking at RRA's site, I can't say what they advertise their 2-stage pull weights as being. It's been long enough that I don't remember it off the top of my head.

After my experience with my own NM, versus 2 other peoples NM's - seems to be some variation. Maybe mine was one that slipped thru, but it didn't make a good impression with me. The 2 other ones I shot, were 'significantly' better.
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W/out looking at RRA's site, I can't say what they advertise their 2-stage pull weights as being. It's been long enough that I don't remember it off the top of my head.

After my experience with my own NM, versus 2 other peoples NM's - seems to be some variation. Maybe mine was one that slipped thru, but it didn't make a good impression with me. The 2 other ones I shot, were 'significantly' better.
It's been a while, I'm think stage 1 is 2# and stage 2 is around 4.5-5#
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I prefer a 2 stage. I got used to them in my RRA rifle.

Any idea what the pull on those are? or do they vary?
RRA NM are a minimum of 4# with a max pull of I believe 4.5#. The trigger does not get lighter or heavier over time and use, it stays constant to what it was set to.

Mine is a 4# trigger.
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W/out looking at RRA's site, I can't say what they advertise their 2-stage pull weights as being. It's been long enough that I don't remember it off the top of my head.

After my experience with my own NM, versus 2 other peoples NM's - seems to be some variation. Maybe mine was one that slipped thru, but it didn't make a good impression with me. The 2 other ones I shot, were 'significantly' better.
Was one of those 2 the one I had at MG with you that one day with Thumper?
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Was one of those 2 the one I had at MG with you that one day with Thumper?
Thumper, in the config. that you and Steve shot it in, was sporting the Geissele SD-3G with the light spring.

I remember warning you guys about it. Pretty sure Steve had a 'pucker' moment when he sent that round downrange a bit prematurely...
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Thumper, in the config. that you and Steve shot it in, was sporting the Geissele SD-3G with the light spring.

I remember warning you guys about it. Pretty sure Steve had a 'pucker' moment when he sent that round downrange a bit prematurely...
I don't think Steve thought Thumper was going to do that. I have video of him firing his first shot standing up, without having it tucked in really well. The scope almost gave him a big kiss.
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Service rifle NM triggers must be able to lift the 4 1/2 lb. check weight. Using a trigger that fails to lift the required weight will result in disqualification, per NRA & CMP service rifle rules. Trigger weight has been checked at every LEG match I have attended. At the nationals, every service rifle trigger is checked for weight. The winner's rifle may be checked again after the match as well. Match rifle triggers do not have to meet this standard, though they must be safe.
The 2 stage Rock River NM trigger is supposed to meet the 4 1/2 lb. standard for service rifle.
RR does have a lighter weight version of their 2 stage trigger that is supposed to be around 3 1/2 lbs. I think it is called their Varmint 2 stage trigger.

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