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BeoBill · May 20, 2016

States With More Gun Owners Have More Gun-Related Suicides: Study
https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_158931.html

Looking at 33 years' worth of data, the researchers found that states with more gun owners generally had more suicides by firearm among both men and women. Men in those states also had higher overall suicide rates.

The findings do not prove that guns lead to more suicides, said lead researcher Dr. Michael Siegel, a professor at the Boston University School of Public Health.

To counter the antis' inevitable flag-waving:

But only association was found, not cause-and-effect

Jim12 · May 20, 2016

BeoBill said:
States With More Gun Owners Have More Gun-Related Suicides: Study
https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_158931.html

To counter the antis' inevitable flag-waving:

But only association was found, not cause-and-effect

Buried in the fine print, right?

I'd wager that the states with more cars have more car accidents, too, but we'd better commission a study first, just to confirm.

teratos · May 20, 2016

In other news, people who never get on a plane are much less likely to die in a plane crash than people who fly.

Jim12 · May 20, 2016

teratos said:
In other news, people who never get on a plane are much less likely to die in a plane crash than people who fly.

And if everyone else would only listen to them, then nobody would die in a plane crash. There ought to be a law. Or hundreds of them.

Sirex · May 20, 2016

Well, to be honest, we have a cookie jar. When the cookie jar is full of cookies, I eat more cookies. When it is empty, I do not eat cookies. So using science, I have deducted it is the cookie's fault I eat cookies, therefore gain weight. So, obviously guns cause suicide.

AntiGun · May 20, 2016

Sirex said:
Well, to be honest, we have a cookie jar. When the cookie jar is full of cookies, I eat more cookies. When it is empty, I do not eat cookies. So using science, I have deducted it is the cookie's fault I eat cookies, therefore gain weight. So, obviously guns cause suicide.

You need a jar that only holds ten cookies.

rondon600 · May 20, 2016

These pretzels are making me thirsty

ericahls · May 20, 2016

Japan's suicide rate is 150% higher than the United States and they have very restrictive gun laws. I guess people find a way.

Jim12 · May 20, 2016

ericahls said:
Japan's suicide rate is 150% higher than the United States and they have very restrictive gun laws. I guess people find a way.

Aha!

Somebody took their guns away, so now they all want to kill themselves!

See?

Armati · May 24, 2016

RISK FACTORS FOR SUICIDE

White
Male
Painful or disabling illness
Living alone
Debt or poverty
Bereavement or loss
Humiliation or disgrace
Depression, especially when accompanied by psychosis or anxiety
Persistent sadness even when other symptoms of depression are lessening
A history of drug or alcohol abuse
A history of prior suicide attempts
A history of suicide in family members
Traumatic childhood experiences, including physical or sexual abuse
Preoccupation with and talk about suicide
Well-defined plans for suicide

So to recap:

Older white men suffering from personal/medical/financial hardship are more likely to commit suicide. Older white men also tend to be gun owners.

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teratos · May 24, 2016

ericahls said:
Japan's suicide rate is 150% higher than the United States and they have very restrictive gun laws. I guess people find a way.

After the UK gun ban, the suicide rates did not go down. IIRC, they actually went up a bit. Suicide by gun went way down. Same for the murder rate.

If you listen to the narrative, they are very specific when they say GUN violence. When the rates of GUN crimes and suicide by GUN go down they will crow about the results. They just don't like guns.

What are they doing in the UK now that they have gotten rid of guns?

SWO Daddy · May 24, 2016

teratos said:
In other news, people who never get on a plane are much less likely to die in a plane crash than people who fly.

Also, children of households who own swimming pools are more likely to drown.

jrumann59 · May 24, 2016

SWO Daddy said:
Also, children of households who own swimming pools are more likely to drown.

I always thought your chances of drowning go way up when water is present.... :innocent0

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