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Old August 13th, 2019, 12:12 PM #631
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I am sorry but are you really unaware that the Democrats' position is that Heller is illegitimate decision? A huge number of them don't just say Heller was wrong, but that it was illegitimate.

If a Democrat wins the White House, given Clarence Thomas' issues with obesity there is a better than even chance that a Democrat will be replacing RBG and Thomas. This will result in a total reversal of Heller at the earliest moment. Have you heard any national Democratic candidate say they support Heller?

In Blue states this will result in a massive increase in gun control. People who assert that today's gun control in Maryaland is as bad as it can get, or that Democrats and Republican elected officials or judges appointed by them "are the same" on 2A don't understand fck all about reality or what is coming the moment the Democrats change just one vote on Scotus. The target is Australia style gun control, no semi auto of any kind, no pistol of any kind, and essentially "may issue" -- prove a need -- for even a break action shotgun. There are a dozen classes of gun laws that can be passed on the way to that making gun ownership an expensive and liability filled nightmare
I half wonder if Thomas retires under trump so he is able to be replaced under trump.
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Senate Democraps threatened the Supreme Court on this case. Stating to heal themselves or they will be restructured.

To me that says drop this case or else we will stack it once we take the Senate and the White House
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Old August 13th, 2019, 12:31 PM #633
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Is there a timeline or deadline on this lawsuit currently? and time-frame for Trump to be able to get a Justice appointed?
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Old August 13th, 2019, 01:47 PM #634
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Supreme Court Takes Major NRA Second Amendment Case from New York

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Is there a timeline or deadline on this lawsuit currently? and time-frame for Trump to be able to get a Justice appointed?


It’s distributed for conference on 10/1/19. At some point they need to rule on mootness.

As far as court nominee...... there needs to be a vacancy first. Kavanaugh was officially nominated on 7/9/18 and confirmed on 10/6/18. Gorsuch was nominated 1/31/17 and confirmed 4/7/17.


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Senate Democraps threatened the Supreme Court on this case. Stating to heal themselves or they will be restructured.

To me that says drop this case or else we will stack it once we take the Senate and the White House


They would anyway, irregardless of the outcome of this case.
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Old August 13th, 2019, 02:27 PM #636
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They would anyway, irregardless of the outcome of this case.
Truth. 2A is only one of their goals.







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I have to wonder if this case is the reason that the gun grabber lobby is charging ahead full steam here and in other places.
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The Sheldon Whitehouse brief is a complete political attack on the court. Is he trying to piss off the court?
Well, it got some attention.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen...-restructuring

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Several high-profile Senate Democrats warned the Supreme Court in pointed terms this week that it could face a fundamental restructuring if justices do not take steps to "heal" the court in the near future.

The ominous and unusual warning was delivered as part of a brief filed Monday in a case related to a New York City gun law. Sens. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., Mazie Hirono, D-Hawaii, Richard Durbin, D-Ill., and Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., referenced rulings by the court's conservative majority in claiming it is suffering from some sort of affliction which must be remedied.
This is the kind of thing that backfires. I wonder if Dems are trying to lose in 2020. People hated Trump, but voted for him based on his pledge to nominate strict constitutionals. Note even Ginsburg suggested court packing. This wont just piss off the court, it will piss off most voters.


ETA: if I were pissed off, i'd be inclined to give these five Senators exactly what they request (dismiss and vacate the decision), then grant all 4 other cases
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Truth. 2A is only one of their goals.
I don't know if SCOTUS will appreciate the intimidation. A lot of lines are crossed by the Dems.
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I feel sure the clerks will go on the side of the Justices they represent. Left leaners with report Look, its moot, corpus whatever, petitioners got what they wanted...
Right leaning clerks will report the voluntary cessation, they will say there is an obvious post Cert attempt only to change laws, the District and Circuit Courts allowed such a BS law to be sustained which is so obvious.
At the end of the day I believe the Oct 1 conference will moot this case, however 1 of the Held cases will be picked up...
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