Matis X trading in aid

MantisX · Dec 19, 2016

Hey Melnic,

You can see the same shot-by-shot analysis in your history (with the colored lines). Just click on the bar graph of a session and you'll be able to pull up the same screens as when you were shooting. Then swipe left/right to see all the other screens.

Hopefully that helps!

3 Gun Gal · Dec 20, 2016

I can see how this would be better for a slightly more advanced student than a real beginner. In my experience, beginners are learning so many things at once that they can only really focus on a couple of the fundamentals at once. They are very inconsistent because one shot they may be focusing more on their grip and another on trigger squeeze. While I'm sure this product has potential to help anyone, there is probably a sweet spot where this product excels in helping someone who has enough experience to be consistent with their shots, but not so much experience that they have to break heavily ingrained bad habits.

Rob1035 · Jul 20, 2018

I picked up the MantisX yesterday (thanks Tyler Firearms!), and really like it so far. I think it will really help give good feedback. I've only used it for dry fire for now, looking forward to live fire.

I started a group (MDShooters) if anyone wants to join.

pilot25 · Oct 31, 2018

Someone helped me at an IDPA event and really shined a light on how bad my fundamentals are. I have been using the Mantis for just over a month and got my 10 yard Bill Drill down to 3 seconds from over 7. Hoping to get to 1.6 by next year.

I've fully bought into dry fire using Ben Stoeger's books and the Mantis. I also watched a lot of Bob Vogel videos.

ToolAA · Oct 31, 2018

pilot25 said:
Someone helped me at an IDPA event and really shined a light on how bad my fundamentals are. I have been using the Mantis for just over a month and got my 10 yard Bill Drill down to 3 seconds from over 7. Hoping to get to 1.6 by next year.

I've fully bought into dry fire using Ben Stoeger's books and the Mantis. I also watched a lot of Bob Vogel videos.

The mantis is a great tool. I dont compete but I dry fire practice with it a few times a week and lately been taking it to the range for live fire. It’s helping me to build consistency in my grip and trigger engagement.

Rob1035 · Nov 1, 2018

I don't get to use mine nearly as much as I'd like, but recently purchased a DA/SA pistol, almost exclusively as a mantis host. No more click, rack, click, rack!

TylerFirearms · Nov 1, 2018

Airsoft pistols make a great host, too. Sig Air Guns make true to life weight Sig P226’s that are SA/DA hammer fired. They cost about $70 and we use one to demo the MantisX in the store. Stop by to see a live demo of what it can really do. They keep improving the app by adding more live fire qualifications and improvements to the accuracy of it. They just recently added the FBI live fire qualification to the app.

erwos · Nov 1, 2018

pilot25 said:
Someone helped me at an IDPA event and really shined a light on how bad my fundamentals are. I have been using the Mantis for just over a month and got my 10 yard Bill Drill down to 3 seconds from over 7. Hoping to get to 1.6 by next year.

I've fully bought into dry fire using Ben Stoeger's books and the Mantis. I also watched a lot of Bob Vogel videos.

One other thing I'd recommend is buying the IDPA and USPSA 1/3 targets from Stoeger's shop - I found it much, much easier to do A-zone shots after I spent time dry-firing at them. In fact, on days where I feel like a little more free-form dry-fire practice, I have a small stage set up in my basement where I can run around, shoot from cover, reload during significant movement, etc. in a single sequence. It's not big, but it's a nice break from running the book drills day after day. But the book drills are where it's at. I don't run the MantisX, but I'm sure it has some value, because people tend to screw it up when it comes to grip and form.

pilot25 · Nov 1, 2018

erwos said:
One other thing I'd recommend is buying the IDPA and USPSA 1/3 targets from Stoeger's shop - I found it much, much easier to do A-zone shots after I spent time dry-firing at them. In fact, on days where I feel like a little more free-form dry-fire practice, I have a small stage set up in my basement where I can run around, shoot from cover, reload during significant movement, etc. in a single sequence. It's not big, but it's a nice break from running the book drills day after day. But the book drills are where it's at. I don't run the MantisX, but I'm sure it has some value, because people tend to screw it up when it comes to grip and form.

Definitely. I made my own out of cardboard. I don't have enough room for a stage but have just about 10 yards straight to a wall. Put up a few regular IDPA targets, some 1/3 size, and a few paper plates.

At first I hated dry fire but after the results I had yesterday I'm sold.

pilot25 · Nov 1, 2018

Rob1035 said:
I picked up the MantisX yesterday (thanks Tyler Firearms!), and really like it so far. I think it will really help give good feedback. I've only used it for dry fire for now, looking forward to live fire.

I started a group (MDShooters) if anyone wants to join.

Joined but it's just me and you. Probably should start a separate thread for it

Mark75H · Nov 2, 2018

Rob1035 said:
I picked up the MantisX yesterday (thanks Tyler Firearms!), and really like it so far. I think it will really help give good feedback. I've only used it for dry fire for now, looking forward to live fire.

I started a group (MDShooters) if anyone wants to join.

???

Rob1035 · Nov 2, 2018

Mark75H said:
???

What's the question here? :innocent0

Mark75H · Nov 2, 2018

Rob1035 said:
What's the question here?

Where is the group? Here on MDS? On Facebook? Some other platform??

GeorgeSSR · Nov 2, 2018

There's a social component of the training aid that lets you compete against other people. Kind of like Fitbit.

Mark75H · Nov 2, 2018

Tungsten · Nov 3, 2018

Some of the reviews indicated it wasn't logging all of the trigger pulls, and was also inconsistent when comparing what the app was saying versus actual POI on a target during live fire. Has the h/w or app been updated. Do any of you that actually have it notice any problems with it?

Mark75H · Nov 3, 2018

Tungsten said:
Some of the reviews indicated it wasn't logging all of the trigger pulls, and was also inconsistent when comparing what the app was saying versus actual POI on a target during live fire. Has the h/w or app been updated. Do any of you that actually have it notice any problems with it?

never had either problem

Rob1035 · Nov 3, 2018

I've only used mine for dry fire so far, but no issues with that. Live fire tomorrow hopefully

pilot25 · Nov 3, 2018

Tungsten said:
Some of the reviews indicated it wasn't logging all of the trigger pulls, and was also inconsistent when comparing what the app was saying versus actual POI on a target during live fire. Has the h/w or app been updated. Do any of you that actually have it notice any problems with it?

I haven't had that issue either. Dry fire only.

I use the Android app and had a few miss logs on trigger pulls but maybe 3 or 4 out of hundreds. The app has a lot of support. There is a little more info with tablets . I don't know why as the app doesn't designate as a tablet app.

I also have the device on the bottom of a mag vs. the rail. Mantis people said there is zero difference in how it logs the data. It's my only handgun so I don't want to have to keep removing it when I go to the range.

Rob1035 · Nov 4, 2018

I used mine at the range today, and overall it worked pretty well, I did notice it "counting" slide drops a couple of times. I need to go back through the app to delete those. I also noticed that the mounting screw was about to fall out when I finished my session. Make sure to check yours if you use it for live fire (was mounted on a PX4 in 40 FWIW)

Also, interesting that my scores were significantly lower, but I guess that's to be expected. Dry vs live is very different, and frankly I have a lot of work to do on both.

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