Biggfoot44
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- Aug 2, 2009
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What El Primero Roberto Mexicano said for background .
In the same era , the other two Federal LE agencies with extensive ammo testing programs reached markedly different conclusions . But had much smaller public relations departments .
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The principal parameter in both the FBI , and our subsequent rehashing , is more or less Duty Size weapons . As Zorros correctly pointed out, if the parameters were primarily lightweight subcompats additional factors which might or might not alter wise decisions .
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Yes , other cals also have improved technology , but the ( usual big bore/ magnum suspects ) already had less room for improvement , at least for straight up anti personnel . The potential improvements primarily regarding barrier penetration .
The ( person in charge of advising ammo selections , whom I know fairly well ) for ( certain not publicly named , medium-sized LE Agency ) attended a Seminar by W-W touting their latest greatest state of the art LE products . Part of the proceedings were the attendees had the opportunity to run their current Duty ammo thru the same testing . The incumbent ammo was the 1st Gen USBP spec .40s&w , ie old school 155gr jhp , driven fast . He tells me there was negligible difference in any of the results , except for windshield penetration . ( Yes , said organization did purchase wiz bang ammo , but has no current plans to switch cals .)
In the same era , the other two Federal LE agencies with extensive ammo testing programs reached markedly different conclusions . But had much smaller public relations departments .
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The principal parameter in both the FBI , and our subsequent rehashing , is more or less Duty Size weapons . As Zorros correctly pointed out, if the parameters were primarily lightweight subcompats additional factors which might or might not alter wise decisions .
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Yes , other cals also have improved technology , but the ( usual big bore/ magnum suspects ) already had less room for improvement , at least for straight up anti personnel . The potential improvements primarily regarding barrier penetration .
The ( person in charge of advising ammo selections , whom I know fairly well ) for ( certain not publicly named , medium-sized LE Agency ) attended a Seminar by W-W touting their latest greatest state of the art LE products . Part of the proceedings were the attendees had the opportunity to run their current Duty ammo thru the same testing . The incumbent ammo was the 1st Gen USBP spec .40s&w , ie old school 155gr jhp , driven fast . He tells me there was negligible difference in any of the results , except for windshield penetration . ( Yes , said organization did purchase wiz bang ammo , but has no current plans to switch cals .)