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Old March 23rd, 2019, 08:37 AM #1
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Which 2011 (double stack 1911) should I buy

I am looking for advice from the collective wisdom on MDS...

I recently took the JJ Racaza class in Northern VA and decided I want to start shooting USPSA and possibly occasional IDPA matches.

After watching all of the other shooters attending the class, the majority shot 2011's. I really liked what I saw. I was shooting a Sig X5.
I really liked the 2011's and have decided to get one. However, at this time I don't want to invest a huge amount of money on a whim.

So was looking for advice on what starter 2011 to get. I am a left handed shooter and want to be able to switch it between iron sights and a red dot without having to switch out the slide. I want to be able to compete with a major power factor.


I like my SIG X5 and it will have a role in my tool box. But, I really have come to like the 1911/2011 platform for precision shooting.
I also have a CZ shadow 2, but it doesn't fit my hands well and will probably sell it.

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I also have a CZ shadow 2, but it doesn't fit my hands well and will probably sell it.
I switched to an SP-01 Shadow for the same reason. The Shadow 2 is a great gun but, if your hands aren't the size of a catcher's mitt, it's almost impossible to operate one-handed. OTOH, the SP-01 Shadow is approximately the same size and has the same feel as a CZ-75 and weighs almost a 1/2 lb. less than a Shadow 2. Balance is good with just a hint of front heaviness. All the controls are easily reachable by anyone with average-sized hands, albeit, equipped with extended safety and slide-release.

If you like CZs, take a look at a Bull Shadow and snag one if you can?


https://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz...ls-custom.html

A friend of mine and his wife in OH shoot USPSA with them and say its the bees knees. Considering the price of the average double-stack 2011, the CZ's are almost a bargain by comparison.
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I switched to an SP-01 Shadow for the same reason. The Shadow 2 is a great gun but, if your hands aren't the size of a catcher's mitt, it's almost impossible to operate one-handed. OTOH, the SP-01 Shadow is approximately the same size and has the same feel as a CZ-75 and weighs almost a 1/2 lb. less than a Shadow 2. Balance is good with just a hint of front heaviness. All the controls are easily reachable by anyone with average-sized hands, albeit, equipped with extended safety and slide-release.

If you like CZs, take a look at a Bull Shadow and snag one if you can?


https://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz...ls-custom.html

A friend of mine and his wife in OH shoot USPSA with them and say its the bees knees. Considering the price of the average double-stack 2011, the CZ's are almost a bargain by comparison.
CZ makes great guns. It is hard to find an extended safety release that is left handed friendly. In addition, I really want a single action only trigger.
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CZ makes great guns. It is hard to find an extended safety release that is left handed friendly. In addition, I really want a single action only trigger.
Ah! Didn't realize you were a southpaw! That's a game changer for sure because the 75 was designed with a right-handed shooter in mind. The extended safety on my SP-01 Shadow is ambidextrous but not the slide release.

I agree that there's nothing quite like a good trigger on a 1911/2011. While the SA trigger pull on the SP-01 Shadow is a crispy 3.2 lbs. (DA 7.5 lbs.) from CZ Custom, it definitely isn't the same.

Be sure to post pics of whatever you end up getting.
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Everything I've read points me to a Brazos tuned Edge as a great starter, if they're still selling them.
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Hey Doc, you might want to consider a RIA double-stack in 40, since you want to shoot Major. Get it pimped out by Hayes Custom Guns. That will get you to $2000.
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Hey Doc, you might want to consider a RIA double-stack in 40, since you want to shoot Major. Get it pimped out by Hayes Custom Guns. That will get you to $2000.
Thanks James,
I was looking at it and am really tempted to get a Brazos Tuned Edge.
Afraid to buy an STI from the factory due to all of their QC issues. Have to sell my Shadow 2 first.

Does anyone have experience with the Remington R1 double stack yet?
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Baltimore's Best Pawn has a nice selection of STIs. Give the a call or PM.
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Baltimore's Best Pawn has a nice selection of STIs. Give the a call or PM.
I have been researching STIs. There are a lot of concerns with their QC. So, if I was to get one, I would want one tuned by a known smith like Bravos. I have communicated with some of the known competition shops that sell both factory and tuned STIs and almost all recommend getting a tuned version.

Examples are poor fit of the barrel to the slide with eccentric gaps, and the front sight being loose. Apparently the new management will let them leave with issues, but they do stand behind the products and will repair or replace them.
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That's good to know. I'd still give them a call, they carry a lot of sweet 2011s
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