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Old April 19th, 2019, 02:15 PM #51
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You are thinking of the phrase "bona fide collector" which the Deisgnated Collector does NOT make you, per both MSP and the AGs office. If you do a search on this board you will find various copies of said opinions from both organizations.



See my reply to CG.
Yep, that's the source of confusion. And, dang, I did search but did not find. I'll try again. Thanks.

This also has probably already been addressed, but if "bona fide collector" is included in the statute, is it defined anywhere or how one becomes one? From the conversation, I'm guessing the answer is no to both.
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Old April 19th, 2019, 02:26 PM #53
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No and no.
Ah, Maryland.

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And to add to the confusion, there has been no court case to give any guidance or interpretation of the meaning of Bona Fide.

Just the way the MGA wanted it I’m sure .
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The term Bona Fide is used in the transportation statute 4-203

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(3) the carrying of a handgun on the person or in a vehicle while the person is transporting the handgun to or from the place of legal purchase or sale, or to or from a bona fide repair shop, or between bona fide residences of the person, or between the bona fide residence and place of business of the person, if the business is operated and owned substantially by the person if each handgun is unloaded and carried in an enclosed case or an enclosed holster;

(5) the moving by a bona fide gun collector of part or all of the collector's gun collection from place to place for public or private exhibition if each handgun is unloaded and carried in an enclosed case or an enclosed holster;
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Collector: from the google machine:

Miriam Webster Collector: one who makes a collection.

I would think that a designated collector letter would be useful in forming an affirmative defense to a charge of illegal transport if one were traveling to a friend's house for an informal display.
When your "collection" contains one firearm???

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thanks for the dose of riddle for the day.
To be clear, I wasn't sporting on you.

If I wanted to store guns at a friend's house, I would simply do so, and that would be that.
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To be clear, I wasn't sporting on you.

If I wanted to store guns at a friend's house, I would simply do so, and that would be that.
I like the cut o' your jib.

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I am looking for guidance on storage law.



Am I able to store some of my collection at a family members house, inside of a safe? I am not sure if that is within the law or if everything I own, needs to be at my residence.



Any legal eagles know anything about this?
I quickly skimmed through the thread. Even considering new law passed this legislative session on temporary transfers or loans (iirc), as long as the person who has access to the safe is not prohibited (insofar as a reasonable person would infer), there should be no problem storing your firearms in their safe.

If it's a family member's home (where you occasionally stay), I doubt that there would be an effort to pinch you on transport laws even if you didn't pack your toothbrush and a change of clothes when bringing your guns there. However, I would guess that it's even more of a moot issue, if you travel in the same vehicle from your residence to theirs, or you load up the trunk of the family member's car at your place if you're going in separate vehicles. No need to do something complicated like meet at the range or go to the gun store (e.g. near their place) if they travel with you from your home. They are then transporting firearms to their home, which is legal.

Eta: I'm discussing legally possessed handguns in the above (transported in enclosed cases, and unloaded) - not banned long guns - nor magazines over 10 rds in capacity. As per long guns that one can legally transfer in MD, there should no restrictions in driving them (unloaded) yourself of course.

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Well here's at least one risk of storing elsewhere ...

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=234784

Of course the other property could be robbed, there could be a fire, etc - same sort of risks at one's own place - but at least you're not necessarily at risk for the actions of another (should you currently live on your own).

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