bigmanindc
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It seems like the same restrictions as DC, 10 round capacity on handguns.
Senate Bill 16, complete AWB
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It seems like the same restrictions as DC, 10 round capacity on handguns.
fred55
Senior
Calls are going to voicemail when not busy. I have left messages at both numbers and will be sending email. I believe any elected official signing on to these bills needs to be charged with malfeasance. They are violating their Oath of Office. fred55
randomuser
Ultimate Member
I agree with you 110% Who will charge them?
"Originally Posted by Glaron
If you are waiting on a politician to save your right to keep and bear arms, you have already lost."
I don't understand how calling a politician that wants to take your guns is going to change him from wanting to take your guns. That guy is clearly on the opposite side. I don't feel I can change his mind any more than he feels he can change my mind. I'm pretty steadfast in my beliefs at this point in my life and I'm guessing he is too.
I can't tell you the last time any of the letters and emails that people wrote came back saying something other than some generic BS about thanking you for writing in to talk about your feelings.
"You need to call Saslaw TODAY at 804-698-7535 and then again at 703-978-0200 and tell him he must withdraw Senate Bills 12, 16 and 18 immediately."
It is frustrating to me. It's like asking a bully not to take your lunch money. Just because you asked nice doesn't mean he is going to change what he does.
fred55
Senior
I spoke with my County Supervisor yesterday and I believe action will be forthcoming at the County Board meeting Dec. 10th. I will be at that meeting as well. It is frustrating. I have seen what transpired in MD and I'll be damned if I don't do all I can here. It is time these tyrannical democrats face the music. I'm trying to find out how malfeasance is initiated. fred55
fred55
Senior
Just sent the following to Senator Richard Saslaw:
Senator Richard Saslaw,
I respectfully request that you immediately withdraw Senate Bills 12, 16, and 18. The Oath of Office you took states "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Virginia, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge all the duties incumbent upon me as .......... according to the best of my ability, (so help me God)." Both of those Constitutions, with the Bill of Rights, provides the “right to keep and bear arms” and “shall not be infringed.” Your actions violate this Oath of Office.
No sane individual wishes anyone to be the victim of violence. However, none of the actions in those bills will make anyone any safer. You are doing a disservice to the citizens of Virginia claiming these bills will make them safer. Governor Northam stated such this past summer. Additionally you will be making thousands of law (legal, constitutional law) abiding citizens felons through no action of their own. You are selling out Virginia’s citizens’ safety for most likely Bloomberg dollars.
If you really were concerned about citizens’ safety you would look at a comprehensive plan to address violence. This plan should start with cultivating a respect for fellow citizens, respect for rule of law, accepting responsibility for one’s actions, and the enforcement of existing laws. Additional segments would include containing drug related violence and mental health support. Of course this route would take real work, eliminate the quick “we passed laws” answer, and not result in Bloomberg dollars for your campaigns.
The citizens of this state are watching you and your fellow congressmen.
Sincerely,
My name here
Virginia resident and voter
Senator Richard Saslaw,
I respectfully request that you immediately withdraw Senate Bills 12, 16, and 18. The Oath of Office you took states "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Virginia, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge all the duties incumbent upon me as .......... according to the best of my ability, (so help me God)." Both of those Constitutions, with the Bill of Rights, provides the “right to keep and bear arms” and “shall not be infringed.” Your actions violate this Oath of Office.
No sane individual wishes anyone to be the victim of violence. However, none of the actions in those bills will make anyone any safer. You are doing a disservice to the citizens of Virginia claiming these bills will make them safer. Governor Northam stated such this past summer. Additionally you will be making thousands of law (legal, constitutional law) abiding citizens felons through no action of their own. You are selling out Virginia’s citizens’ safety for most likely Bloomberg dollars.
If you really were concerned about citizens’ safety you would look at a comprehensive plan to address violence. This plan should start with cultivating a respect for fellow citizens, respect for rule of law, accepting responsibility for one’s actions, and the enforcement of existing laws. Additional segments would include containing drug related violence and mental health support. Of course this route would take real work, eliminate the quick “we passed laws” answer, and not result in Bloomberg dollars for your campaigns.
The citizens of this state are watching you and your fellow congressmen.
Sincerely,
My name here
Virginia resident and voter
davsco
Ultimate Member
fred55, great letter! i emailed a similar one.
but like randomuser, i don't see these calls and emails doing much. i mean they're easy enough to do, but surely saslaw, northam, etc know they're stepping on the USA and VA constitutions as well as a big part of their constituency and just don't care. they got voted in, in part for their antigun programs and now they feel empowered if not obligated to follow through.
but like randomuser, i don't see these calls and emails doing much. i mean they're easy enough to do, but surely saslaw, northam, etc know they're stepping on the USA and VA constitutions as well as a big part of their constituency and just don't care. they got voted in, in part for their antigun programs and now they feel empowered if not obligated to follow through.
randomuser
Ultimate Member
I get it. I get what you are doing Fred55. i respect it. I don't think it changes anything, but I do respect your position and what you are attempting to do. I just get frustrated seeing how it plays out. Saslaw doesn't have your vote, You don't give him money, but your asking him to go against the majority (the people who voted him in who want what he is proposing) and your asking him to go against the bloomberg money that he gets. There is no incentive that I can see by having him change his stance based on what "our side" says.
Now in regards to malfeasance. I'd like to know more about that. If there was accountability for oath breakers. If there were, I'd be in favor of signing petitions for that.
Now in regards to malfeasance. I'd like to know more about that. If there was accountability for oath breakers. If there were, I'd be in favor of signing petitions for that.
I think the new bills outlaw threaded barrels.
rcreynolds
Member
- Nov 4, 2015
- 65
Read this breakdown. It's not so bad, we can work around it. The real problem is the absence of a grandfather clause.
https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...dfather-clause-proposed-by-state-legislature/
https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...dfather-clause-proposed-by-state-legislature/
- May 22, 2005
- 122,882
It's bad from top to bottom. It needs to die.
mawkie
C&R Whisperer
Time to pack up the NRA Museum inventory and move it to another state lest they have VA State Police knocking on their doors should this abomination pass. I guarantee that's the first place they go after passage with democrat politicians in tow for a wonderful photo op. Lunacy. My grandfathers were union members and democrats. I'm glad they're not here to see the joke that their party has become. And a scary one at that.
MigraineMan
Defenestration Specialist
Yes, the cake contains arsenic. Let's compromise and limit individual serving sizes and require you to use a smaller fork ...
Ahhhhh.....sarcasm, I get it now............
davsco
Ultimate Member
where are the 'not so bad, we can work around' parts?
fred55
Senior
This bill is a POS from top to bottom. Nothing in it will make anyone safer. It is pure infringement. It needs to go away. fred55
I wont say anything but that people in the past tried to warn us and we were told "What could go wrong" and n ow there are "groups" of people used as voting blocks that allow this to happen and those same groups of people are often the ones committing most of the gun crime. if that is racist so be it but facts are facts.
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