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Old January 27th, 2020, 10:05 PM #21
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AR500 has a minimalist carrier that is pretty nice. Some people hate on their steel plates but that are a great place to start.
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Old January 28th, 2020, 07:27 AM #22
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Ferro Concepts uses their own ADAPT system, which is just a couple thin metal G hooks and Velcro backing on their placards (the thing with the mag pouches that you can attach to the Slickster plate carrier). Example below where you can see the system a little better

https://ferroconcepts.com/collection...lle-front-flap

It is a nice system and very low profile. it is also proprietary so you are only going to get front placards from Ferro Concepts unless someone else starts making them. The industry standard, which is slightly less low profile, allows you to use any chest rig or placard that uses the itw Nexus buckles, aka the Swiftclip system. There are tons of chest rigs and placards that use the swiftclip system.

Examples:

https://www.velsyst.com/products/uw-chest-rig-gen-iv
https://haleystrategic.com/d3crm-micro
https://www.spiritussystems.com/lv-placard-5-56/

Plate carriers that utilize natively are around too. Like the Spiritus 119 system:

https://www.spiritussystems.com/c-o-...ont-plate-bag/
https://www.velsyst.com/products/scarab-lt

Those aren't the only two systems out there - Crye has their own quick attachment system now with the JPC 2.0.

Personally I like the Swiftclip system because I can go from just having medical supplies to being ready to go with an MP7, SCAR H, M4, AK, or basically anythjng just by swapping placards. And if I decide I want a new plate carrier, I can just port everything over. You can put a Swiftclip adapter kit on the Slickster just like most other plate carriers if you want. I just think the Spiritus Systems plate carrier is better if you want to go that route.

For truly low profile, I like the First Spear Slick, as it is cheap (less than $100 retail), comfortable, and I can just keep a chest rig nearby if I need to. Since the harness of any chest rig I own uses the the Swiftclip system, I already have what I need since I use placards with that system for my regular plate carrier.

https://www.skdtac.com/FirstSpear-Th...-p/fsr.521.htm

Hopefully that helps. The bottom line is that the Slickster is a great plate carrier and you would be well served by it or any other modern light weight one. Also don't get in a hurry to get side plates. They are expensive and heavy for their limited coverage.
Awesome - lots to consider there. I think one of the things I've learned over the years is to go with standardized systems and to try to avoid proprietary systems if possible.
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Old January 28th, 2020, 07:31 AM #23
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Iíve started thinking about this in the last couple months. Found this video helpful.

Wow - this is a actually pretty good and takes me in a different direction than I was expecting. He makes a lot of sense to say that for us civilians, that we should be thinking in terms of what a soft armor with the addition of plates does for us more so than to think about a typical military set up.

Maybe that's the real solution for my intended use - a super low profile soft body armor, a la a more law enforcement type under clothing base. Add a plate of desired. Then have an appropriately set up chest rig that carries the desired gear.

My current chest rig is too sparse in terms of real estate unless I was going to reconfigure it to have another layer out front.
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AR500 has a minimalist carrier that is pretty nice. Some people hate on their steel plates but that are a great place to start.
Will check it out.
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Tons of options and everyone will have their best solution.

I like steel as I saw too many ceramic plates get broken in the sandbox. Don't like the newer plastic type of stuff as heat can mess it up and it has a life expectancy. So, I prefer steel as it will serve my kids when I'm gone.
Good points. Was the breakage due to just daily wear and tear/getting knocked around, or something else?

Being realistic, this is going to hang on a hook probably for the rest of my life, just like the fire extinguisher on the wall.
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I would strongly encourage reading this before buying AR500 plates:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tacticalgea...el_body_armor/

I get that ceramics have issues when they are being actively smashed around in a warzone. That is not the use case the OP seems to describe.

I have a minimalist carrier with (certified) LIII poly plates for LARP'ing at classes and so on. If I ever thought I'd need better protection, I'd buy certified ceramic LIV or SRT plates.
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I watched the first of several videos this guy has up. He's former military (maybe Marine since he keeps ragging the Army), but he seems to have a pretty sensible approach to things.
He's an active duty SERE instructor in the Air Force. He is definitely one of my favorite gear reviewers due to the fact that he gets to test a lot of stuff in the field.
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Don't have anything to contribute, but this is a great thread. I'm currently running a Condor carrier with AR500 plates. They're pretty heavy and I've been casually looking for a lighter option. I wasn't going to replace the carrier, but maybe I will after reading this thread.
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The video that JPG posted makes lots of sense to me. I know NOTHING about plates/carriers etc...learned a little from the video
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