I think this new AR stock might be popular for SBRs in MD.

SWO Daddy · Jan 21, 2016

Can't find a video of it (it just debuted at SHOT), but you get the jist of how it works in the photos below. It's called the Optimus Stock.

dontpanic · Jan 21, 2016

Looks nice. If it is a carbine buffer and spring, even better.

imtan8 · Jan 21, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2reXjOjETs

brianns · Jan 21, 2016

Some of those look like stromtrooper blasters.

Hawkeye · Jan 21, 2016

imtan8 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2reXjOjETs

Sweet baby Jesus that guy needs to fix the autofocus on his camera.

That said, this looks like potentially a cool stock for SBRs here.

Ifdot · Jan 21, 2016

Need more info :envy:

what's the lop fully extended?

molonlabe · Jan 21, 2016

I don't see how they can be legal in Maryland. I've been reunited with my Wilkinson Linda Pistol after 12 years of living in Maryland. I retired to WV and got it back from my daughter in PA. Looks about the same but more lethal. The Linda is 9 mm.

Hawkeye · Jan 21, 2016

molonlabe said:
I don't see how they can be legal in Maryland.

Why wouldn't it be?

dontpanic · Jan 21, 2016

Hawkeye said:
Why wouldn't it be?

It almost seems like he posted in the wrong thread.

SCARCQB · Jan 21, 2016

That's nice. I like the cheekweld compared to the NEA pdw variety.

molonlabe · Jan 22, 2016

Hawkeye said:
Why wouldn't it be?

Sorry right thread. I understand it's a short barreled rifle but the Linda pistol can hardly be handled as a pistol. It's got a 30 round magazine I never saw the logic of Maryland banning it by name. Maybe I'm seeking logic where there is none.
Or is the part that I don't understand is the SBR an NFA firearm?
Heck I can hold a military M4 with one hand better than that brick Linda.
Sorry for my ignorance.

Ifdot · Jan 22, 2016

molonlabe said:
Sorry right thread. I understand it's a short barreled rifle but the Linda pistol can hardly be handled as a pistol. It's got a 30 round magazine I never saw the logic of Maryland banning it by name. Maybe I'm seeking logic where there is none.
Or is the part that I don't understand is the SBR an NFA firearm?
Heck I can hold a military M4 with one hand better than that brick Linda.
Sorry for my ignorance.

You know we are talking about the buttstock right? Not the whole gun.

BossmanPJ · Jan 22, 2016

I love the way this stock looks while collapsed. The rifle that is all the same color damn near looks like 1 solid piece.

Hawkeye · Jan 22, 2016

molonlabe said:
Sorry right thread. I understand it's a short barreled rifle but the Linda pistol can hardly be handled as a pistol. It's got a 30 round magazine I never saw the logic of Maryland banning it by name. Maybe I'm seeking logic where there is none.

I think you're being too logical.

And, FWIW, AR pistols are totally legal in MD, and are probably technically way more "lethal" than the Linda is / was by dint of their caliber. It's just that they didn't get put on the "that's scary" list of "assault pistols" way back when - probably because they weren't very popular then.

Or is the part that I don't understand is the SBR an NFA firearm?

This is probably it. Attaching the stock that we are talking about here to those short-barrel ARs makes them an SBR.

In Maryland, (and I'm sorry if I'm repeating crap you already know) an newly-made SBR must currently have an OAL of at least 29", measured without any non-permanent muzzle devices and with the stock in it's most extended position.

The advantage of the stock that's pictured in this thread for that use is that it looks like when you extend it all the way out you probably have a pretty nice long length of pull, and when you collapse it all down it's very, very compact which would make a nice thing for use on PDWs. It also uses a standard BCG and stuff, unlike say the Troy PDW stock which uses a special BCG and short buffer tube.

I have an 8.5" barrel AR pistol that I'm waiting on a Form 1 to come back to make an SBR from. Right now, because of the stupid 29" ruling from the Maryland State Police, I have to put a 7 position A5 buffer tube and a huge stock on it in order to make it meet the OAL rule. What I want to do is keep it as light and compact as possible. If this stock will give me the OAL I need it would be perfect, even if I don't love the tiny surface area of the shoulder pad.

molonlabe · Jan 22, 2016

Thank you, I understand now.

SCARCQB · Jan 22, 2016

I'm building an 11.5 SBR. The falkor stock should get me well beyond 29".

I'm also using a piston upper so the new srock should be compatible with piston bolts.

But it's nor available for sale as of yet.

usa259 · Jan 22, 2016

I'm interested in those handguards...

cap6888 · Jan 22, 2016

Wonder what the length is with it fully extended. My guess is you would still need at least a 10.5 inch barrel though.

I think this new AR stock might be popular for SBRs in MD.

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