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Old May 10th, 2018, 10:21 AM #41
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I think it will be difficult to determine if the prices are "good" until you know when the pistol was manufactured. If its a rebuilt WW2 vintage with limited rebuilding, then the prices may be spot on. If they are rebuilt 70's or 80's pistols, then their asking prices may crazy high.

That also may be why they will not accept the C&R FFL, they don't want to do the research to be sure it really is a C&R and are employing the ancient art of CYA.
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I don't know what the going rate is, but I agree that the CMP's prices are not high for 1911s/1911A1s. I'm by no means up on prices, but I think you can easily spend 2-3 times what CMP is charging for a pistol in nice condition. In fact, I'd be pretty surprised if you could find anything decent for $1,050 these days. I have a 1944 Remington-Rand 1911A1 for which I paid $1,260 a few years ago. It is in very good condition other than a very small area of pitting on the slide. It was correct except for the barrel (which I've replaced) and a commercial magazine with some corrosion (I need to find a correct mag). I felt that was a good price for what I got.
Thanks, yeah that sounds more in line with what I was thinking prices would be, $1100 for a service grade (depending on actual condition) after transfer fees didn't sound too crazy for a 1911a1 straight out of army storage... If someone knows where to find them cheaper I'm all ears
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I think it will be difficult to determine if the prices are "good" until you know when the pistol was manufactured. If its a rebuilt WW2 vintage with limited rebuilding, then the prices may be spot on. If they are rebuilt 70's or 80's pistols, then their asking prices may crazy high.

That also may be why they will not accept the C&R FFL, they don't want to do the research to be sure it really is a C&R and are employing the ancient art of CYA.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't no more 1911 pistols built for the military past 1945? Even if they were refurbished later that doesn't change the fact they were originally made during WWII.

Agree that the amount of rebuilding would affect pricing
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That also may be why they will not accept the C&R FFL, they don't want to do the research to be sure it really is a C&R and are employing the ancient art of CYA.

The pistols are C or R eligible whether or not every part but the frame was replaced in 1986. They wonít accept an 03FFl because thatís the deal they struck with the Army.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't no more 1911 pistols built for the military past 1945?
That is my understanding as well. No more 1911's were purchased post WW2. All the Gov't 1911's were rebuilt at the armory and redistributed to the troops.
Pretty sure I read that on several different sites.
I would love to have one, but money is tight, and $850 for a Rack Grade, along with transfers and such.......nah.
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I'm sort of on the fence over this one. $1100 seems kind of steep if it turns out to be a total 1980s mix master rebuild, but a total score if it turns out to be mostly original. I'm sure the mostly original pieces will go to auction.
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I can understand the $1050 for one in good condition, but $850 for something that's rusted and needs work is a joke.
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The best 1911 gunsmiths are about to get a big backlog.
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I think it comes down to what you want. If you want a gunsmith to build you a shooter, why not just start out with a Caspian or STI frame for $250-300 (from Brownell's)? The only difference... and it could be a big one for some folks... the one's from CMP will be stamped "Property of US" on the frame. How much is the history worth to you? I could see maybe throwing the dice and getting a cool piece of history for $1100+ (base price + shipping +FFL fees), but a rack grade mix of parts for $900+ that will need to have pitting and surface rust ground and refinished? IDK
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Judging by what I see price wise, I'll pass. As a vet who was issued a 1911A1, I would like to have picked one up from CMP but, I will not lose any sleep over it.
On the plus side, the 1911's I have are in pristine condition so, I'll be smiling all the way to the bank, if I ever decide to part with any of them.
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